
The Ole Perfesser on guns:
Virginia Tech graduate student Bradford Wiles also has a permit to carry a gun, in Virginia. But on the day of the shootings, he would have been unarmed for the same reason: Like the University of Tennessee, where I teach, Virginia Tech bans guns on campus.
In The Roanoke Times last year – after another campus incident, when a dangerous escaped inmate was roaming the campus – Wiles wrote that, when his class was evacuated, “Of all of the emotions and thoughts that were running through my head that morning, the most overwhelming one was of helplessness. That feeling of helplessness has been difficult to reconcile because I knew I would have been safer with a proper means to defend myself.”
Wiles reported that when he told a professor how he felt, the professor responded that she would have felt safer if he had had a gun, too.
What’s more, she would have been safer. That’s how I feel about my student (one of a few I know who have gun carry permits), as well. She’s a responsible adult; I trust her not to use her gun improperly, and if something bad happened, I’d want her to be armed because I trust her to respond appropriately, making the rest of us safer.
Virginia Tech doesn’t have that kind of trust in its students (or its faculty, for that matter). Neither does the University of Tennessee. Both think that by making their campuses “gun-free,” they’ll make people safer, when in fact they’re only disarming the people who follow rules, law-abiding people who are no danger at all.
The Ole Perfesser on neighborhood watches:
Likewise, in the event of disasters that leave law enforcement overwhelmed, armed citizens can play an important role in stanching crime. Armed neighborhood watches deterred looting in parts of Houston and New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.
Precisely because an armed populace can serve as an effective backup for law enforcement, the ownership of firearms was widely mandated during Colonial times, and the second Congress passed a statute in 1792 requiring adult male citizens to own guns.
The twin purposes of self and community defense may very well lie behind the Second Amendment’s language encompassing both the importance of a well-regulated militia and the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. As the constitutional and criminal law scholar Don Kates has noted in the journal Constitutional Commentary, thinkers at the time when the Constitution was written drew no real distinction between resisting burglars, foreign invaders or domestic tyrants: All were wrongdoers that good citizens had the right, and the duty, to oppose with force.
The Ole Perfesser on Trayvon Martin and the gun law that killed him:
You will be happy to know that Reynolds did take the time to point out that the media was craven for pulling down the Malia Obama vacation stories, that there are layoffs at the Oprah Network, and Cee-Lo Green sang a song with a bad word in it, in case you hadn’t heard.
On the other hand, there are markdowns in patio, lawn & garden at Amazon…




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My first thought? If only Trayvon Martin had had a gun he could have defended himself!
To the Perfesser, as Cee-Lo Green so eloquently put it, “Fuck You.”
Is it just that they have absolutely no self-awareness that they can’t imagine a situation where, during a crisis, if they start running around with drawn guns, THEY will be identified as the shooter, and promtptly dispatched by cops?
Are they unable to imagine a situation where they AND the armed faculty member at the first sound of gunfire both bravely pull out their weapons, dash into the hallway and shoot one another?
Guns fired on a college campus by unknown assailants – look, is it the dark-haired Asian kid in hoodie? Blow him away! Ooops, that was the Chemistry TA trying to be a hero.
Here come the cops, and an armed figure runs toward them down the hall. Got ‘em, sarge. Ooops. That was the Literature professor trying to protect her students.
Brave young male student whips out his gun and fires a shot at the armed gunman slowly stalking the halls. Whoops. That was a cop.
The think it’s all just like on teevee where we know who exactly are the good guys and the bad guys.
They don’t seem to realize real life doesn’t have a script.
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Dang, “auntsnow” beat me to the exact same post. Gotta be fast around this blogosphere. U.S. gun policy is literally insane; the Florida incident just predicts a future of ever-increasing mayhem. And no politician has the spine to push back.
There are people in the state where I live who are suddenly pushing for concealed carry on campuses. Given the unique hot house of pressure, odd roommates and debauchery of a residential college campus, that’s just asking for trouble.
If the ol’Professer is going to bitch about campus gun policies, he should just move his ass to Regency U or Liberty U.
I’m sure THEY allow CC on campus, don’t they? And Regency is well known for the “quality” of their lawyering, so Glenn will fit right in.
Maybe GPA should dictate the weaponry a student can carry.
You’re a dumbfuck? Squirt gun, after you’ve mastered the pop gun.
You’re a Lil’ Einstein? Fuckin’ rocket launcher, baby!
That way everyone is armed and nothing could possibly go wrong…
No, no, that’s just asking for Freedom™!
(Freedom™ is a registered trademark of the Republican National Committee. Used with permission. All rights reserved.)
As soon as black people start carrying to protect themselves from these neighborhood groups, you’ll see the law repealed faster than you can say “Mulford Part Two”.
Sensing the wave of ennui and apathy the Romney campaign is generating the koolaid drinkers know they need some issues to ensure higher voter turnout.
Well, that’s nice. If everybody is armed, what do you think the chances are that one or more of those people won’t be “responsible” or trustworthy? What if one or more of those people is a pissed-off asshole who just wants to make someone pay for all of the injustices he feels that unworthy individuals have visited upon him in his life, and decides to even up the score? Do people like the Ol’ Perfesser ever think about unintended consequences of having deadly weapons in the hands of large numbers of people?
I’m thinking that it will be like the reaction to the Black Panthers.
I wonder if Professor Fuckface trusts his colleague to use her vagina and uterus properly?
A few years back, some bozo shot up a shopping mall in Salt Lake City.
It turns out that an off-duty cop and his wife were in a restaurant when the bullets started flying. The cop got involved, but first he had his wife call the local police dispatcher and give the dispatcher his badge number and a full physical description of him to pass along to the cops so that they would know him, when they saw him with his gun drawn, for a good guy.
He still almost got shot.
Moral: Don’t assume the cops can see the neon sign over your head that reads “Good Guy”.
How long has it been now since Gabby Giffords was shot? Remember the citizen coming out of the gun shop right after the shooting, who almost took down the civilian helping Giffords? He thanked God he didn’t shoot. Wasn’t he a lesson to anybody? Oh, hell, why do I keep hoping these people actually have brains? It’s such a waste of time. Unfortunately, it also takes lives, and it’s sickening.
Has anybody asked the white folks of Sanford, Florida how they would feel if all the black males in town felt it was necessary to arm themselves? You know, stand their ground? Yeah, I thought not.
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Here are the deep philosophical underpinnings to FREEDOM!! & GUNS!! from The Daily Tucker:
Free men don’t dial 911
That was exactly what I was thinking. Maybe if I could figure out a way to carry a gun in my uterus, they’d leave it alone …
Reading _A Safeway in Arizona_ and having one of the survivors of the massacre note that he -was- armed and came within a hairsbreadth of misunderstanding who was the threat and shooting the people who were controlling Loughner….
You mean like how the fembots have them in their jubblies?
Coke to outrage….
I see what you did there.
… except that racist police practices prevent many black people from being able to carry legally. And racist police profiling also scares off black people from carrying out of fear that they’ll be stopped and shot.
“The twin purposes of self and community defense may very well lie behind the Second Amendment’s language …”
Why does this sentence contain the word “may”?
I would expect a Law Professor to either already have the knowledge to speak definitively on the subject or have the skill set to find the information he needs to speak with certainty on this subject.
Doesn’t he take any pride in his professional skills?
Since Zimmerman is Hispanic I’d imagine teh ole shit-stain is too busy doing this.
Since I’m just a stupid, illogical Liberal I always have trouble with the Right Wing concepts of “Law Abiding Citizens” and “Criminals.”
By definition isn’t everybody a “Law Abiding Citizen” until they commit a crime and then they become “Criminals”? How do the Concealed Carry Laws keep us safer when this transition takes place?
Someone mentioned upthread that Ol Perfessor could go to Regent or Liberty U to get his gun on – at least with Regent, not so much apparently. From the Regent Student Handbook…
http://www.regent.edu/admin/stusrv/student_handbook.cfm
5.7.9. Weapons Possession. Regent University faculty, staff, students or visitors are prohibited from using or possessing fireworks, firearms, or adjoining property owned by CBN. Firearms are defined as any gun, rifle, pistol or handgun designed to fire bullets, BBs, pellets, or shoot regardless of propellant used. Weapons include, but are not limited to, knives, razors, metal knuckles, hatchets, foils, stun guns, tasers, blackjacks, nunchuks, bows and arrows, or any explosive or incendiary devices.
Liberty U is more complicated, in that anyone with a concealed carry can come on campus with their gun but only faculty can bring them into university ‘facilities’, presumably buildings and the like. However, there is a long laundry list of things that rescind this right…
http://www.liberty.edu/media/1370/Weapons_Policy_11-11-11.pdf
Just to, you know, keep the riff-raff out. I would think that list would encompass half of all the CC holders, at least if they were in Texas.
“Armed citizenry” sounds so much better than “armed mob”, doesn’t it?
Hey, gun assholes, I totally support your right to bear a muzzle-loading musket in a well-regulated militia, just like the founders intended.
What— you don’t agree with Original Intent? Fuck you!
So, Professor, which of those categories encompasses “fucking coons” and “assholes” who “always get away”?
Wait…what? Is this guys talking about how he feels following secks with himself?
They only agree with it when it can be made to screw dark people and anyone who isn’t rich.
Heh! That little bit of history seems to have been suppressed even more effectively than the Sandia Labs report debunking “A Nation at Risk”.
At least he has an interesting tee shirt.
Yep – Real Reagan versus NRA Reagan
Media seems to never remember anything not on the GOP PR handout.
Like US foreign policy, so it is with domestic policy: the one and only solution to our imagined, fear-addled “feelings of helplessness” is to pull out a gun.
Stick a fork in us.
That’s it. Crippling, unreflective, thoughtless fear coupled with TV reality. That combination will yield some hideous, violent shit. If you can get people to believe absurdities, you can get them to engage in atrocitites (paraphrased Voltaire).
The best part about concealed carry is that the vast majority of class instructors will tell their students, “if at all possible, get away without using your gun”.
Guess that didn’t take down in Fla.
There is a lot of enthusiasm for gun control currently and historically.
Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, Pol Pot, and most recently Chavez.
http://www.businessinsider.com/hugo-chavez-fighting-crime-by-disarming-innocent-people-2012-3
What about the four police killed in Seattle? They had their guns in plain sight and one was a former Seal or something akin.
The cosmology of Right Wing Fundamentalists (or fundies of any stripe) is one of mutually exclusive binaries. There is the essential Good and the essential Evil. Within this worldview, a criminal is always a criminal. Criminality is an irrevocable component of their character. It is why the solution typically offered by such fundamentalists is eradication of the Other. To consider the world subjectively, to take into account context and relativity requires thought, which is precisely what fundamentalisms are designed to overcome. Ideological adherence to fundamentalist tenets makes an otherwise scary and confusing world so much easier to understand. And thus, ironically, Right Wing Fundies trade security and comfort for the very freedom they imagine they are after.
Good catch. The “Stand Your Ground” law in Florida is based on the US government policy of preemptive war, except it applies to individuals rather than nations. Sort of a 1% doctrine for the masses.
If everyone had at least one gun, we would all be safe and have no crime, right?
If ALL nations had nuclear weapons, we would all be safe and have no wars, right?
Yes, those “neighborhood watch” groups did a great job in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina: http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/when-vigilantes-rule-feds-hand-down
I hope Casey Stengel, the original “Old Professor,” rises from his grave and smites the blogger who took his name in vain.
U.S. gun policy is literally insane; the Florida incident just predicts a future of ever-increasing mayhem.
Wait another decade or two, when the income gap grows even wider, the country experiences energy and climate crises, and the rich retreat into heavily-armed gated communities. America is a party bus on the express lane to dystopia.
The point is, he DIDN’T shoot an innocent, because he was properly trained. Why do you feel safer when surrounded by cops with guns? I can tell you from personal experience, that I was trained better and practice more at the range than any police department in my state requires of their officers. These cops are probably way more likely to shoot an innocent than the guys I shoot with. If you have not been properly vetted and trained, then NO, you do not belong on the business end of a firearm.
Bang! As the US self-destructively attempts to maintain its shrinking empire and international influence, so some of its citizens, with similar anxiety, attempt the same in the face of their declining socioeconomic positions. The blind spot is that thoughtless violence won’t increase one’s quality of life, no matter how skilled the trigger finger. The ability to not live in fear seems to be something that, after 70-plus years of perpetual war and an increasingly fascist political system, many US citizens are unable to muster. We are witnessing here and abroad is a stunning lack of courage and imagination.
No, the point is that the vast majority of shooting deaths result from legal Gun-owners shooting somebody else by accident (usually Family Members and/or friends), not Criminals gunning down innocent civilians.
Plus, requiring that all Gun Owners be properly vetted and trained constitutes GUN CONTROL, which the vast majority of the idiots in the NRA vehemently oppose.
hell yes, because some very well-trained individuals can be trusted to carry a gun at all times without an accident, we all should likewise we should all be allowed to drive 200 mph on the highway because, heck, those guys in NASCAR do it just fine!
Ah shit, almost forgot to feed the troll…