Our old buddy David Ferguson reports:
Be advised if you plan on attending the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida this summer. You can’t bring your water gun to the designated protest zones, but your concealed pistol? That’s just fine, according to an article in the Tampa Bay Times.
Under Florida Statute 790.33, local municipalities are forbidden to make or pass any restrictions on the “sale, purchase, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, storage or transportation of guns or ammunition.” So, when Tampa city officials attempted to regulate gun possession with the so-called “Clean Zones” around the proposed convention site, they found that they were already overruled.
“Even if we tried to regulate it, it would be null and void,” City Attorney Jim Shimberg told the Times.
Assistant City Attorney Mauricio Rodriguez said, “”It was just kind of common sense. We felt if we’re going to regulate people carrying sticks and poles, why wouldn’t we regulate people carrying firearms, because those could pose significant risks to police and other protesters.”
But, facing disciplinary action by the state, including “judgments of up to $100,000 against local governments that enforce local gun ordinances” and action against local officials that could include removal from office, fines of up to $5,000, and denial of representation by city or county attorneys, Tampa legislators backed down.
It’s all fun and games until an unexpected firecracker goes off, someone screams, and it turns into the conclusion of a Tarantino film.





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Stand your ground. Heh, indeedy.
It’s all fun and games until an unexpected firecracker goes off, someone screams, and it turns into the conclusion of a Tarantino film.
I wonder how many of them would piss their pants once the shooting started, and how many of them would start firing at any dusky-skinned bystanders?
Oh you silly ASSISTANT City Attorney. First, your name ends with a Z so your real ‘murican bona fides are questionable. Second, “common sense” U R DOIN IT RONG. Common sense cannot be in the same paragraph as “regulate”. It can appear in the same paragraph as “firearm”, but only if it says “SHALL NOT BE ABRIDGED” somewhere else nearby. Florida is ‘murica’s wang, not some nanny state and for the love of Daytona, you just know that the redcoats will take us over if conservatives don’t stop it. also, too, broccoli mandate. plus you should repudiate stalin as well and additionally.
It would be irresponsible not to speculate…
Who could predict?
Move along, nothing to see.
Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera (in your best Yul Brenner voice)
::
…or “The Wild Bunch”, or “Bonnie & Clyde”, or…
or “shay hallo to my leetle friend…”
Firecracker?!?! Suh, you have offended the flower of southern whateverhood with that racist word! The proper term is fireworks; cracker is just plain anticonfederate.
Undoubtedly, this is great news for John McCain. I blame Obama. Also, too.
Those two actions aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive. I’d expect to see a lot of people pissing themselves while firing at dusky-skinned bystanders.
“Firefight breaks out at Republican National Convention, over 20 hotel and restaurant staffers killed…”
‘It’s all fun and games until an unexpected firecracker goes off, someone screams, and it turns into the conclusion of a Tarantino film.’
I’ll never forget Graduation Day at UCLA, all the doctoral candidates milling and filling, when an unexpected firecracker did go off – and half the graduates (the ones who’d just come back from doing their fieldwork in waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay hostile places) dove into the shrubbery, under tables and behind stone walls…. Good times, good times.
Ah TBogg, you always get our hopes up at the end.
It’s a good reason for you to live where is is sunny, every day.
In Oakland yesterday and where it is not sunny; while the Feds were busy raiding Oaksterdam University, a goony whacky was able to exercise his Second Amendment rights in a classroom right down the road. And he isn’t even white.
Doesn’t everyone know that the Second Amendment is called the WHITE Amendment for a reason?
Wait a minute! We all know very well that those of dusky hue are few and far between at the Republican Nat’l Conventions. So as long as the very few minorities that are invited to be there for the photo ops
don’t wear hoodies and carry Skittlesare kept well away from the ravening hoardes of heat-packing T-GOPers: problem solved!I was in fear for my life.
The story is all about the designated protest zones, presumably full of DFHs and the like, but does this mean firearms will also be allowed within the Convention itself? Because inside, give or take the odd reporter (and some of them are quite odd), it’s harder to see the downside …
Let’s just say that, if Allen West is in the room, and shit goes down, there won’t be enough of him left to fill a sandwich baggie.
Let’s face it, the 2nd Amendment was a mistake, like that 3/5 bullshit, whatever the Founders’ reasons at the time. It’s lost it’s usefulness, whatever that was. A well-regulated militia?
WHY AREN’T YOU BLAMING OBAMA?!?
This must have something to do with the ACA.
Maybe allowing these statutes to stand is just a scheme to put people in emergency rooms in Florida, generating revenue for health insurance providers.
Wait a minute…Whatever happened to that young Republican who was filmed kicking some captured and downed female protester at one of the last conventions, and then denied it when questioned on camera?
it could be worse, the NRA might have started lobbying for the legalization of flamethrowers.
You couldn’t get me within 100 miles of Tampa that week (or ever, really) for all the tea in China. Seriously, that’s gonna be a free-fire zone. All those threatening NYTimes reporters asking their pesky questions? Rachel Maddow? Ed Schultz? How could any self-respecting GOP delegate not fear these people?
“I was in fear for my life” is absolutely right.
What could possibly go wrong? Our *stand your ground law* obviously works in the manner intended (see: Treyvon Martin).
All this shit came up because the Tampa City Council is in the process of passing all sorts of absurd *temporary* ordinances in preparation for Mitt’s
coronationnomination. No squirt or paint ball guns, no baseball bats, broomsticks (gee, I wonder how Snowbilly Snooki will get around the Bay area?) or anything that can be considered a weapon, except guns. This all brought to you by our esteemed Florida legislators,the same folks who passed stand your ground. Assholes, one and all.Ahh, teh stupid, it burnz. This is going to get real ugly, real fast.
Ah, good catch from the
memory, er, cache. That is, assuming I am correct in thinking that you are referring to the (alleged) Scott Robinson incident at the 2004 GOP national convention, when he (allegedly) kicked a young lady – a downed ACT-UP protestor. It got a mention in this Wikipedia entry. Video here.Mr. Robinson denied involvement to Julian Sanchez of REASON (following Sanchez’s original post on the incident; this was back when that rag had some occasional worthwhile content), and his college newspaper also did a story.
The video was apparently considered too inconclusive for the police to act on their own (that’s what they said!), and the victim chose not to press charges either. IIRC, the consensus seemed to be that, despite his denials, Robinson was the kicker.
But to what I assume your main point was: think what he could have done with a gun!
Also, too: this is Obama’s fault for not jumping in and using the bully pulpit to browbeat these lawmakers into submission, like they do over in Kenya.
A GOP convention in FL? It’s likely the only people who won’t be armed will be the protesters in the “protest zones”.
What about silly string and whoopee cushions? Are those OK?
Hold on there!
I’d put money on
batshitcrazyAllen Westopening fire on anything moving, gnawing on the skulls of his deaded victims and torturing the live ones just like in Iraqde-escalating the situation.Who gets to be Mr. Pink?
That would be me, wouldn’t it?
Lindsey Graham.
I can’t imagine anything more terrible than a shootout and bloodbath at the Republican National Convention. Dead Republicans everywhere, blood and pickled grey matter spattered on the bunting. That would be terrible. Yeah, terrible.
Can you shoot water from a regular pistol?
This will not end well.
I share your concern.
Depends on how you define “end” and “well.”
You know; of course, they’d blame a liberal woman for lighting off the firecracker.
Me. Me. Me. Pick me.
It’s OK. The Tampa PD has an armored personnel carrier.
BTW, is Wayne LaPierre attending?
TRex and TBogg! Wheeee! It’s gotta be good!
Now to go up and read the post and link…
Are they gonna hold a Miss APC contest? Bathing suit, SWAT suit, vaginal insertion just to make sure winner isn’t preggers, talent contest at firing range, or skip that, how many peaceful demonstrators she can kill in one minute with her AK47.
How about crackers with fireworks?
Tasers? We could call them defib devices.
Oh, I would pay to see that. ; ) (imagining)
Which part would you pay for & how much. Mitt would be happy to collect you money.
TBogg and TRex! I know!
Unfortunately there’s this little item:
Will there be a trophy presentation?
I think everyone should bring a gun, the more the merrier. Afterall, I’m sure the NRA and Tea Party are packing.
I find the picture used with this article extremely offensive. There’s at least one dead guy in it. Plus the bloody dude on the floor.
Last Man Standing!
Heh, end of a Tarantino flick, loved that line, n yer header.
I can’t believe this is gonna go down, with armed concealed carry n loaded chambers.
What are they thinking?
It’s time for progressives, in a spirit of bipartisan generosity, to yield to the other side our agreement that they can have their states’ rights on this one point — jurisdiction over their upcoming convention in Tampa.
The Secret Service now has control over security within the convention itself, which is the only reason FL law doesn’t apply there, the only reason guns can be banned on the floor of the convention.
Now, to you and me, not having firearms on the floor of a political convention probably seems elementary and obvious common sense. But that’s because we’re socialist pacifists. We probably don’t think guns belong in churches, bars or classrooms either. To a Republican and movement conservative, folks who believe that open and concealed carry enhance security, such a prohibition should seem just wrong.
Let’s let them have their way on this. Let’s set them free of the tyranny of a situatiion in which jack-booted Secret Service agents, agents of that Mooslim Socialist Kenyan Usurper, are the only people allowed to have firearms on the floor of the convention. Withdraw the Secret Service and let the convention floor in Tampa be one big laboratory in which that most precious freedom, the Right to Bear Arms, provides all the security convention goers will be getting.
But let’s give them just that one concession, and otherwise remain true to our nanny-state ways. We need to mandate that they buy funeral insurance if they are going to attend.
Let he who is without sin fire the first shot. Then they should all be safe.
Nah, illegal foreign woman non english speaking using up our tax dollars for her 12 kids on welfare.
So yer sayin Palin’s gonna be there?
Effing brilliant, nice set up and killer close.
*bellowsandapplaudsloudly*
Even trained police can’t handle “unexpected firecrackers”.
I kid the murdering police who are murderers.
I’d missed my favorite dino. Glad to see he’s apparently gotten over his burnout.
And, I am looking forward to the “Shootout at the Nutcase Corral”. Yippee ki-yay, and all that. :-)
I’m sure the Secret Service assigned to the candidates are thrilled by this development.
If some guerrilla marketing group had the balls, it could flash mob up several dozen people to stand in a tight, camera ready group in one of the “Protest Zones” thrusting automatic weapons up in the air, à la any street celebration in a war torn region, shouting pithy slogans of whatever it is they wanted to sell.
Would only work for the right products, though. Shouting “Buy a sleep number bed from Serta!” would likely provide undesirable market exposure for the client.
So what are the opportunities for a street vendor to be able to sell firearms to convention attendees in the immediate area of the convention center?
So the 2nd Amendment protects the rights to bear arms, but only if you’re armed with a gun? I can’t arm myself with a 2 x 4 and expect the same constitutional protections?
Damn 1 percenters don’t want a poor fellow to have anything.
How about splitting the group into “Tastes Great!” and “Less Filling!”?
Ain’t nuthin’ purtier’n a pack o’ good ol’ boyz, sportin’ shootin’ arns and bein’ all patriotical and all. ‘Speshuly when they’s a chance fer a dad-burn, goldurn, honest-ta-gawd shootout!
Yee-haw!!!Gitterdunn!!!
I had to go and look at that comment.
I ran away from home when I was 13. If you want to see some vile and disgusting shit done by sociopaths, live on the street as a teenager.
You will get more than your fill.
What’s the likely outcome of a police crackdown of an Occupy site where one or more of the occupiers have concealed carry permits and are strapped?
Funny, just finished watching Reservoir Dogs on free Hulu.
Will convention-goers be able to conceal-carry in the convention building? If not, why not? If Guns R Us is good enough for bars and playgrounds and places of business, why not the convention?
Clearly, 2nd ammendment rights are being trampled here. Extreme heat and humidity, crazed freaks, angry white supremecists, a losing ticket, guns far and wide.
What on earth could go wrong?
I think this would be a great sociological experiment. Everyone packing, plenty of free booze, convention still deadlocked on the 20th ballot. Then 1/2 dozen people light off firecrackers. Step back and see what happens.