
Well, no wonder why Archbishop of New York Timothy Dolan is so gosg-darned “horrified” that the Obama Administration is shoving their sexy contraception mandate down the Holy Mother Church’s throat! It seems that the church has, if you’ll excuse the expression, already “shot its wad” when it comes to shelling out the big bucks for a good time after Vespers:
One of the most powerful Catholic Church leaders in America approved payments of $20,000 to get abusive priests to leave the church, abuse victims and the archdiocese in question said Thursday.
Victims feel “considerable dismay” that leaders of the church in Milwaukee “have been apparently engaged in paying off those who betrayed the children of our archdiocese,” they said in an open letter to the current head of the church in Milwaukee, Archbishop Jerome Listecki.
But the case could reverberate far beyond the borders of the Midwestern city.
Timothy Dolan, who was archbishop of Milwaukee at the time, is now archbishop of New York, head of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and a cardinal.
Notes from a meeting he attended in Wisconsin in 2003 show a “proposal” to offer $20,000 to “currently unassignable priests.”
Do tell…
The minutes of the finance council meeting emerged as part of Archdiocese of Milwaukee bankruptcy proceedings, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests said Wednesday.
The archdiocese filed for bankruptcy protection last year in the face of lawsuits from people who said they had been abused by its priests.
On Thursday, the archdiocese confirmed that it had offered payoffs to abusive priests as “the most expedient and cost-effective way to have offenders laicized or removed from the priesthood.”
Having an abuser volunteer to go through the process known as laicization – formally leaving the priesthood – “was faster and less expensive. It made sense to try and move these men out of the priesthood as quickly as possible,” the archdiocese said in a statement.
You may remember this from the Sermon on the Mount when Jesus spoke (spake?) to the multitudes and said:
And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
So really, you know, when you get down to it, it was actually Jesus’s idea that Dolan should cut his losses; maybe do a cost/benefit analysis and appoint an executive committee to look into forming an LLC as described in The Book of Murray: Disciple Accountant. You can look it up.
One Catholic church source defended the payment plan on Thursday, saying, “You either pay them to leave and give them money for food and clothes and shelter as they look for a job or you have a drawn out trial that could take years.”
“Wouldn’t that be preferable than to keep them as priests and paying their salaries,” the source, who would agree to speak only anonymously. “And wouldn’t it be better than a trial and to have victims testifying and cross examined?”
So, to sum up:
Archbishop of New York and head of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Cardinal Timothy Dolan approved what might best be described as Catholic Catch & Release for priests who were using their parish like a Boystown Buffet, and then gave them each a $20,000 check as a lovely parting gift before sending them on their way into the world to freelance.
$20,000 and no police record?
That’s a pedophile’s wet dream, even better than helping Justin Beiber with his costume changes.




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wait, does this make the priests hookers? can they at least be arrested for that? and worse, does it make the kids johns?
All of which begs the question: Hey, Cardinal Dolan, how many children have YOU raped?
Asshole should be brought up on RICO charges, fucking child rapist.
Holy shit. They’re not only admitting but defending this? That takes some pair of tax-exempt balls don’t it? Last I looked, buggering children was still an actual crime, even in Milwaukee. I’d imagine that paying off known child-rapists rather then reporting them to the police would be some sort of crime, too. It’s a sure thing there would not only be arrests but public executions if the institution in question were, say, ACORN.
Oh well. As monstrous crimes go this is small peas compared to laws that require employees’ health insurance to cover contraception.
If the church was concerned about anything other than their wealth, power, and prestige, these priests would have been defrocked, excommunicated, and reported to the police.
So I guess the Vatican is not a Right To Work State?
hmmmm … gives the term “cross-examination” a whole ‘nudder perspective .. eh ??
Defending it, but anonymously of course.
Shorter Church:
“Here’s 20K. That will cover your MANBLA dues and condoms for life. Now get out of here, we’re busy trying to burn these slutty whores at the stake.”
Zing!
And by “sluts”, they mean these ladies who really are doing what used to be called “the Lord’s work”.
No. The most expedient and cost effective way to have these guys “laicized” would have been to go to police and prosecutors and have their criminal asses thrown in jail.
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Prosecute, castrate and create a new chorus of angels.
When the Archdiocese of Milwaukee filed for bankruptcy back in 2011, I could see something like this coming:
Now, of course, I’d have to update the refrain in that post from bishop to “Cardinal.”
Ahh, for the good ole days when the Catholic church could gather up children by the reservation full and ship them off to ‘boarding schools’ for easy access torture and rape.
No doubt Cardinal Dolan will soon be needed in Rome…
At least they’re trying to get rid of the molesters.
What would help me out with this issue is to see the religious organizations take major steps in their recruiting and matriculation process to detect and eliminate child molesters and pedophiles.
Maybe professional psychological profiling of aspiring priests? Might not work well, given that (arguably) you have to be half-crazy to begin with to piously worship an invisible angry sky man, and to want to live a life with no sex and few friends.
(The real problem at hand is the notion that priests must go through their lives without sex, or even, seemingly, the desire for sex, as agents of some deity. You’re already asking for some pretty weird people to try to sign up for such a job, and given that you can’t know what a candidate’s basic drives are when he is signing up because he can’t officially or unofficially have any such drives it becomes problematic to see that someone isn’t an aspiring child molester.)
Awesome! Bastards should be I jail.
No sex?? Really??
Molesting children has nothing to with ‘lack of sex’. If were a ‘lack of sex’ it would be adults the priests would be breaking their vows of chastity.
The reason the pedophiles become Priests is because it is unfettered access to defenseless children. And it isn’t a new fucking problem. My Grandmother and 6 of my great aunts and uncles were torture by Catholic priests.
All in the name of saving their immortal souls.
The conspiracy has been going on for decades. More likely centuries.
Fucking monsters in our midst…
Well, if these guys are gonna swear off sex for all time, it would be only right to castrate them for entry to the gang.
Er I come from an Irish background. So I’m voting for centuries on that one.
And there are priests who do prefer adults. At least two cases that I’ve heard of, of priests with children they’ve been supporting financially.
I wish the Vatican would give up their centuries-old policy of pretending that men who become priests give up all desire for long-term relationships. Might result in a hierarchy that’s in better shape mentally.
Many denominations and orders have aspirants go through pretty comprehensive psychological and/or psychiatric assessments, although it’s not a particularly difficult net to slip through if you have a modicum of psychological sophistication. You can usually catch the bad sociopaths and batshit crazy contenders, although the slick ones can often game the process.
Shut it down, sell off its assets, convert its real estate to homeless shelters, imprison its leadership. The entire racket is a criminal enterprise; it’s only shared belief in a myth that makes other people not see this.
Aha. So, according to Dolan, consenting adults must seek Catholic permission before having sex, but men raping children is pre-approved.
Hey Teddy, how about just insisting the church follow the laws and turn over criminals for prosecution and stop covering up and protecting them?
“Kill them all” has never induced cooperation from anybody.
…and the Milwaukee church is not a *holy* owned subsidiary, if it is allowed to file for bankruptcy protection to avoid criminal prosecution.
Better yet, give it to Mitt and the boyz at Bain; they’ll run up the debt, sell off the assets and declare bankruptcy.
As I always say, this once again proves that the Catholics are the 2nd most dangerous cult in the world.
~ Harry R. Sohl
Amen, Teddy, Amen.
Many readers here may not know the following:
{ snip }
- from “The Case of the Pope: Vatican Accountability for Human Rights Abuses by Geoffrey Robertson” (The Guardian, Terry Eagleton, Sept. 11, 2010; my bold):
So truly this institution is codified to systematically engage in crimes against humanity. Time to obliterate it and you can help do that by donating money and volunteering time to those who are working on the ICC Vatican Prosecution effort brought forth by the Center for Constitutional Rights and Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP). You can even support the efforts of individual attorneys as Jen Robinson (@suigenerisjen, Director of Legal Advocacy, Bertha Philanthropies – Media and Human Rights Lawyer, London) who worked on the legal opinion that’s the basis of the above cited Guardian article. Start helping today!
Centuries it is.
I like the ICC route. Thanks for the linkage mzchief.
I think warning any Catholics you may know to not let their children be alone with any of their priests is highly advisable too.
You are welcome! It’s apparently most tricky for those under tribal governments in the US from what I see with some doing better than others such as the Mohawk. I try to keep up in part by following Brenda Norrell at Censored News and Indigenous Environmental Network. If you are First Nations folk in Canada it looks better. The Council of Canadians do great work but it’s the Canadian Centre for International Justice (CCJI) that is CCR’s correlate. These attorneys were definitely busy behind the scenes giving Bush pause for cause when he decided to show up near Vancouver, BC last year to “refill the coffers” on a speaking engagement. I’m able to gather much more regarding tribal legal developments by using Twitter and now there are great young folks involved in progressive media on the Res as Indigenous Action Media (found out about them via Norrell’s site). Hope this all helps. Never give up!
P.S. I am very slowly reviewing the material associated with the Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada and the associated process. Heartbreaking and clearly systematic, institutionalized abuse as previously pointed out. Excellent documentaries by native film makers are now available to watch and I am going through them as well. The US can’t have any shred of decency and not do this process. I look forward to bringing that about which will come faster if you and yours become a Friend of Wikileaks (secure sign up here when the site comes back up: https://wlfriends.org). They will continue to develop other language logins if there’s the people come (e.g. Cherokee, Hawaiian).
Hey altar boy, turn the other cheek.
… and Jesus wept.
And how many more decades do we have to wait for them to do that before we can conclude it ain’t gonna happen?
Seems that Cardinal Timmeh also totally lied (aka “Bore false witness”) about the hush money:
“Questioned at the time about the news that one particularly notorious pedophile cleric had been given a ‘payoff’ to leave the priesthood, Cardinal Dolan, then the archbishop, responded that such an inference was ‘false, preposterous and unjust’”
The estimable (and irreplaceable) Charlie Pierce lays it down here:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/timothy-dolan-milwaukee-history-9312791
Ooooh! A “signing bonus” for sex offenders!
As a practicing ex-Catholic, I’ll share this story. After 5 years of badgering from my mom, the wife and I got married in the Church (for the kid’s sake!). Of course, we needed to go through the whole stupid marriage study program – with a quiz! Sometime later, this parish Priest resigned when his sibling younger brothers went public with accusations that he molested them as children. Wanna ask how dirty we felt?
It’s called aiding and abetting after the fact, as a matter of fact.