You spelled Sippy Cupp wrong.

Cupp’s “character” is a crotchety Fox News viewer’s Wet Dream of what an atheist REALLY is. Remorseful. Pained with Sin. Scorns other non-believers. Full of envy for those who know the reality of being a true, God-fearing American.

She’s playing the part of the “lost”, pre-Amazing Grace.

If it’s at all sincere, given her graduate degree, I pity her. If’n it’s a cynical ploy, Fuck Cupp.

Either way, she’s got issues and is broadcasting them out into the world, so it’s fair game.

Good lord, what a dreadful hour of television MSNBC has put together in the 3pm slot. I hadn’t seen a second of this monstrosity until this clip, and it’s even worse than I’d imagined.

Even if we set S.E. Cupp aside for a moment and focus on her co-hosts, it’s a blueprint for unwatchable television. Steve Kornacki’s very good as a “sleeps on the green room cot” guest on Maddow or O’Donnell, and often has interesting insight on campaigns beyond the horse race, but he lacks the chops to shepherd this shit show fail parade to respectability. Meanwhile, I don’t think Touré has communicated a single interesting thought during his hundreds of segments on other MSNBC shows, but he gets a hosting gig? Is MSNBC trying to be the Oprah of the cable news game? “You get a show! You get a show! Everybody gets a show!!!”

Then there’s Krystal Ball. I get that MSNBC wants to give a break to a liberal that’s easier on the eyes for straight male viewers than Chris Matthews, but is this the best they could come up with? Alex Wagner is at least as attractive and probably ten times as bright as Ball. (Okay, she has her own show, but I think she would do much better with the multi-host “The View” setup than she does as a solo anchor in a bad time slot, and certainly better than Krystal God-Damn Ball.)

As for Ms. Cupp, the commenters over at DarkSyde’s joint have it right: she’s a preening poseur playing the role of a wingnut’s idea of what an atheist is. The fact that MSNBC thinks she could ever make for watchable television is surprising only to those who forget that it’s the same network that makes its viewers suffer through three hours of Joe Fucking Scarborough every day.

Oh well, at least we have our Rachel on weeknights and Hayes and Harris-Perry on weekends.

It was very nice of them to invite Professor Clark to listen to the discussion of Cupp’s profound views. It would have been fun if Dr. Clark had adopted an awed, slack-jawed, drooling, pinky-up-nostril pose while listenting to Cupp expound.

lol she’s toast. maybe she’ll do playboy next?

Wait, you mean this is serious and not the latest conservative attempt to mimic The Daily Show?

Once again, the Almighty demonstrates Its supremely wicked sense of humor.

Bonus points to Krystal Ball for emphasizing to viewers that Cupp is supposed to be smart,

Well of course she’s smart; she wears those dark-rimmed hipster glasses.

Hilarity abounds in her declaration that she would not support an atheist for president. First with the assumption that several atheists haven’t already occupied the office (I wouldn’t presume to name them, but knowing both the world and politicians in general as I do, you have to know that at least one of them was a non-believer pretending to be one of the faithful), then with the whole fucked-upness of the thought process (such as it is) one would have to go through to reach that opinion.

The shorter would have to be something like this: “I, who believe and want others to believe that I am smart, have not been able to accept the idea of a deity in spite of the application of my presumed superior intellectual powers; as a result my preference in political leadership is for those who either didn’t apply their intellectual powers, whether superior or not, to the question but instead just accepted it blindly, because even though I haven’t been able to rationally deduce the need for me to show submission to an imaginary god, I just like the idea of a leader that grovels to a figment of the imagination.”

That’s not very short, but as noted before, the Byzantine maze of logical fucked-upness one must navigate to get to Cupp’s conclusion can’t be summarized in a twitter-twat.

“Thank you for having me on your exciting new show.”

–Kelly James Clark

At that moment, I’m afraid I began laughing so hard that I didn’t hear anything that was said in the remaining ten minutes of video.

So what were they talking about again?

If he laughs out loud, he’ll be buried under an avalanche of Readers Digest Condensed Books. Ow! The Light in the Plaza left a scar!

Hey, Showbiz! Can we get our drinks over here?

–Joel Hodgson, commenting on the distracted and mugging behavior of a waitperson in MST3K’s cover of “I Accuse My Parents”

Okay, I’m now hoarse from all the laughing.

Wait, S.E.Cupp has a slot on a cable network? [laughing and laughing and laughing]

O fucking stop it you’re killing me [more laughter]

Laughter subsiding, right on Jenn.

Our greatest statesmen have always been deists, that is to say, men who had no religion, but had faith.

I don’t expect that in my lifetime I will ever hear a President say God? Don’t be silly but that’s simply because of the country I live in, one which is still consumed by the puritanical witch-burning element that founded it. I’m afraid we’re stuck with it.

Wait, you mean this is serious and not the latest conservative attempt to mimic The Daily Show Chinese TV?

She can’t vote for an atheist, because belief in God provides a “check” on a leader, which is why there never has been a religious war. That must be so, because she has a masters in religion, and they never mentioned it. She just hates that atheist group for rating candidates on their secularism, and religious groups like Focus on the Family would never do that.

So she’d feel just hunky dory with some modern incarnation of Jefferson Davis or Adolf Hitler over Jesse Ventura or Greg Graffin. Good to know.

The graphic also spelled Judaism wrong. It says Judiasm. Isn’t that actually a term referring the orgasm of a woman named Judi?

Thank you, over paid executives at MSNBC, for allowing a conservative the chance to humiliate themself in front of thousands, maybe even tens of thousands of people, instead of just me and the bar-room.

Kornacki had one witty line which got lost in the crosstalk. When Cupp said she wouldn’t vote for an atheist, he said, “You’re a self-loathing atheist.”

What’s also nice is that Cupp asserts–not pejoratively–that it is necessary to be “intolerant” if you’re a believer; then she is (thank God, so to speak) corrected by Clark in that she means there can be “disagreement” between different faiths. I was waiting for him to say, “you don’t seem to know what the word ‘intolerant’ means.” Then, five mins. later, she deplores how “intolerant” certain atheists are.

If she looked like K-Lo we wouldn’t be talking about this.

She just comes across as an ignorant fuckup. As an atheist, I’m a bit embarrassed to have that in common with someone who is so unable to think through ideas. She’s so uncommitted to being an atheist that she doesn’t even understand what it means. She has the philosophical sophistication of a 13 year old. Not believing in God doesn’t mean you have to be an ass to religious people, but you also don’t kowtow to state establishment of religion, as has been pretty much standard since Reagan.

If she looked like K-Lo we wouldn’t be talking about this.

Bingo. As the weeks drag on and the ratings surely sink, I fully expect her to begin hosting in a teddy.

She also engages in the false equation of atheism with religion. Atheism is not a religion, it’s the absence of religion. Everyone who has been an atheist for more than 5 minutes knows this.

You can be intolerant of a faith while being respect [sic[ of it.

–SE Cupp, “not one of those crazy militant atheists.”

I finally was able to make it through the remaining ten minutes of video, and you know, it doesn’t take much to conclude that S. E. Cupp believes in nothing but S. E. Cupp. There’s a name for her and it is “courtesan.” It’s only slightly more polite than calling her what she actually is: a whore, doing it for money. Hope it spends well.

Not laughing any more.

Someone from here or Rising Hegemon already said it best: “Two cents, one Cupp”.

Reasoning skills that would make Cornell proud?

Though, as a fellow NYU Grad School graduate, I must say I am embarrassed.

It’s amazing how some people have been able to graduate from some of the finest universities in the world and still come away without an education.

Because, If she looked like K-Lo she wouldn’t be on Cable/TV.

From her Wiki Bio.

“…describes herself as an atheist who ‘really aspires to be a person of faith some day.’ ”

Doesn’t that mean that she really is an Agnostic who hasn’t been able to take the leap of faith to full Atheism?

Wait, SE Cupp and Krystal Ball aren’t porn names?

When Clare Voyant joins the conversation, I’ll start to be suspicious.

In case you missed the profound epistemological analysis of the “God Particle” byAlthouse.

As a sage named Wooster once said, “There’s some raw work pulled at the font from time to time, is there not?”

Well, there’s certainly one “atheist” that I could never vote for, so I guess I have something in common with — who is that vacuous twit?

It’s really stupid people like SE Cupp who give those of us who are atheists a bad name. If she would STFU people might not think that there are only two kinds of people who lack religion (the ones who yell at everyone else just as evangelical Xtians do and the ones who really, really wish they had an imaginary friend in the sky).

It would have been nice if those who granted her a graduate degree had somewhere along the way taught her some basic vocabulary and reading comprehension.

Sippy Cupp coulda been a sitcom star. Sadly, this will not happen.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/06/1106722/-Daily-Kos-Elections-Morning-Digest-How-checked-out-is-Thad-McCotter-This-checked-out

Alex Wagner is the bomb. Don’t be talking shit about her or I’ll have to pop you one and good.

The media has a problem. They could have thoughtful insightful commentary but then they will be guilty of “liberal” bias. They could provide thoughtful consrvative commentary as balance but sadly, none exists. Alas, they have decided to give batshit crazy equal time instead. Whatayagonnadoo.

Apposite and erudite, that’s what we like to see

It says Judiasm. Isn’t that actually a term referring the orgasm of a woman named Judi?

Unh… unh.. Oh!… OH!!… JU-DI, JU-DI, JU-DI!!!

I’d still bang her. Is that wrong?

On rare occasion a gem is found in the cesspool that is YouTube comments. Someone over in DarkSyde’s comments found such a gem:

S.E. Cupp is the Uncle Ruckus of atheism.

I’d still bang her hit that. Is that wrong?

Yo foo, you dope!

I’d say Gooper Griff’s Cupp done runneth over. And onto the table. The floor. The chair.

Well, yes; but I suffer the same problem with Michelle Malkin. Morally bankrupt ignorant twit, but she’s so fuggin hot…

Wait. Nobody seriously believe this chick is a conservative or an atheist right? This is all theater. She is a relatively attactive young female who has been given a scripted persona. She isn’t very bright or articulate either. Very uninspired. It wouldn’t surprise me if she was completely apolitical and saw this as a schtick in order to break into the television gig.

If she looked like K-Lo we wouldn’t be talking about this.

That.

That x 1,000.

Tell me, are either of you disappointed if the object of your desires turns out to be a nice person? Really, I’m curious. Me, I can’t separate the image from the maggot brain it’s attached to.

i predict that at some point she’ll become one of those insufferable “Born Again ” fucktards , and will wind up with a gig on fundy TV with Kirk Cameron , and the Banana guy. Anything for a buck…

How long will it be before Cupp’s obvious stupidity cause her exit from this show?

I see a very public baptism in her future.

She’s pretty – dumb, but pretty. She wouldn’t vote for an atheist because they see 95% of the world as crazy unlike themselves but she would consider voting for say Pat Robertson who sees 95% of the world as pure evil because they are not just like him? Whatever.

Yeah, I guess “hit that” is a little less crude. Naughty librarians tend to bring out my inner Andrew Dice Clay.

Hey, I’m not grinding my loins into my teevee screen because of her cogent repartee, dammit.

Here, a little light Romney smackdown for the kids:
http://hammeroftheblogs.blogspot.com/2012/07/book-of-moron.html

Sippy Cupp has her own entry in the DSM-IV. It is nice to see that even the rightwing whackaloons are beginning to notice and get a tad uncomfortable.

Honestly, I have this weird desire to take her to a jam concert, fire up some good ‘dro, and spend a few hours convincing her that if she’d just put down her hate for a bit, she’d see that the people she thinks want her dead really only want her sane. It’s not pity, exactly; more like sympathy. It must be exhausting to live in that constant state of rage & fear.

I mean Malkin, of course. My “naughty librarian” fantasy will forever belong to Tina Fey…

“disappointed if the object of your desires turns out to be a nice person?”

Not sure I understand. I’d love to find out that the Limbaugh/Malkin crowd were just having us all on for a laugh. I’d even be happy to find they were totally amoral, and just in it for the buck. It would be the shittiest way to make money I’ve heard of in some time, but it would make a twisted kind of sense. To think that grown people actually believe this shite is truly frightening…

Cupp has been on Bill Maher’s show a few times, and she really doesn’t come off as a rageaholic, not the sensationalized Nugent-esque vituperation we’ve become accustomed to from some of these folks. She’s also not as smart as she thinks she is, but I suppose none of us are.

Like most of these professional rabble-rousers, Cupp strikes me as just another salesperson trafficking in muddled contrarianism. Movementarian conservatives have long abandoned any core Burkean/Lockean paleo principles their forebears — including Saint Reagan, PBUH — espoused. The only thing they really care about is generating traffic by taking potshots at (or better yet, making things up about) whatever caricatured librul guff is the currency for that day.

I’m sure there’s some sort of political-theory term for it — antidisestablishmentarianism, counter-reformationism, whatever you call people who don’t actually stand for anything, but rather against a set of assumptions and talking points which tend to be more convenient than factual.

“…I’d love to find out that the Limbaugh/Malkin crowd were just having us all on for a laugh. I’d even be happy to find they were totally amoral, and just in it for the buck….”

Limbaugh is in it for the money. (And the chicks that go with it. Isn’t he on aerobics princess #5 now or somethin’?)

Malkin is a “true believer,” which leads me to believe that wingnut heaven is a very scary place, indeed!

The tags for this article need to be changed to STFU DUMB LADY.

Well, yes; but I suffer the same problem with Michelle Malkin. Morally bankrupt ignorant twit, but she’s so fuggin hot…

No. No, I’m sorry, she’s not. It would be like commingling with a rabid squirrel or a brain-craving zombie. There’s not enough viagra on this planet to prepare me for such a horrifying event.

Lay off the Marlboro Reds honey.

Yep – she plays the dumb person’s idea of what a conservative atheist should sound like.

Nice work if you can get it… without, you know, killing yourself from shame. Like all these aforementioned conservative part-players seem to be able to do. The money’s that good.

Cain TV anyone?

Recall both Cupp and Loesh were on Maher around the same time – both gussied up and looking fairly attractive – call me cynical but I’d say it was entirely to get the rank and file thinking with head #2. God knows any hetero male, or homo male for that matter, given a choice would rather listen to Karl Rove’s horseshit being spewed from a pretty talking head than, say, Karl Fucking Rove’s dough-ball noggin. They’re going to play it for all it’s worth, and there is literally nothing the thugs will do to pull one over.

The only purpose conservative punditry serves is to keep everyone as stupid and angry as possible, so a paradox is immediately created when corporate propaganda tries to brand itself as “smart”

yeah she’s very telegenic, but uses ‘words’ like ‘indubitable’, repeatedly. Two days in a row she incorrectly used ‘cat bird seat’ in embarrassing circumstances. Clearly her producers are also illiterates who can’t or won’t guide her from malaprops. Sometimes she’s just a cringe worthy hottie.

It may be the 5-hour energy drink, OR it could be the delay that occurs when S.E. gets involved in ANY discussion and the lie-machine across the avenue (cluster-fox) has to write her words and messenger them across the street to her.. She really tries hard to sound like something she’s just not…. Intelligent.

let me get this straight. She likes the idea of a President asking a god what to do about situations before acting? A god she doesn’t believe in? A God that almost always seems to agree with what the person has decided to do already? Didn’t Perry, Gingrich, bachmann, etc all say they talked to God and he told them all to run for President?
I know MSNBC is trying the same format as Fox Five, but with younger and cuter pundits. I don’t hate the show; I think Kristen Ball and Touree are OK. But mostly I get the last 10 minutes before a bemused Martin Bashir comes on

The best stupidity in this clip: Cupp says an atheist should never be president because atheists are only 5% of the population but then insists that a Jew could be president, no problem!

Wikipedia says atheists+agnostics: 1.6%, Jews 1.2% of the US adult population.

I guess her graduate degree in religion didn’t include any actual facts like that.

The second best stupidity in this clip: At the beginning when Cupp is explaining to the professor what his book was about(!) she listed ‘Arab’ as one of the Abrahamic religions.

Can NYU revoke her Master of Arts with a concentration in Religious Studies from the Gallatin School of Individualized Study for showing such remarkable ignorance about religion?

ETA Maybe she spent her time studying religion at Gallatin in seminars like “Baseball as a Road to God”.

If this woman is an Atheist, then I’m the fucking Queen of Britain. She’s nothing more than a hipster doofus caricature.

If, somehow, she actually is an Atheist, then she REALLY needs to work more on her personal deprogramming. Because as the man said, she’s quite the self-loathing Atheist, if indeed that’s what she really is.

“I would never vote for an Atheist for President!Ever!” Then she goes on to say that Atheists constitute only about 5% of the population. As Bill Maher has frequently pointed out, non-relgious people in the U.S. constitute the largest oppressed minority in the country. As if somehow, being of a minority, however extreme, in and of itself should in no way bar one from consideration from office. Which among other things make her an enormous bigot, seemingly without enough neurons to form a synapse.

Her arguments about why she would never vote for an Atheist President are EXCLUSIVELY the arguments of the religious. Period. Basically, she said that she wouldn’t vote for an Atheist because they wouldn’t have any morals. Projecting much there miss Cupp?

I’m sorry dear, there’s no way you can crow about your Master’s in religion, make these solely religious arguments, and claim Atheism. You just want to do so, because you think it makes your conformist personality seem a little more ‘edgy’.

I’m sorry, but it’s been proven time, and time, and time again over the centuries, that religion not only enables such immorality, it downright encourages it. It’s also been studied by science a bit. Guess who has a more well thought-out, solid moral framework? Guess who most often does the right thing when no one is looking? Hell, while we’re at it, guess who has a better knowledge of the specifics of religion?

You guessed it. Atheists and other non-religious folk.

She’s nothing but a stealthed fanatic. Which I suppose is only fair, since her kind of rhetoric perpetuates stealthed Atheists in the leadership and pews of EVERY church.

I understand that MSNBC would want an attractive woman host for a show, but like many such women, she is only pretty until she opens her mouth. Which honestly, defeats the whole purpose.

Can NYU revoke her Master of Arts with a concentration in Religious Studies from the Gallatin School of Individualized Study

It finally all makes sense! She thought she went to the Galtian School of Individualized Study.

~ Harry R. Sohl

Hey S.E. I got your “higher power” for ya, right here…

I’m sure there’s some sort of political-theory term for it

Dumbassitarianism?

Congrats Essy! I bet none of your conservative male listeners found you in the least bit intimidating.

W000T!

Well, yes; but I suffer the same problem with Michelle Malkin. Morally bankrupt ignorant twit, but she’s so fuggin hot…

It must be alarmingly hot wherever you live. Perhaps you should to go inside and lay down for a spell…

A conservative atheist?! Oh, she is SO gone! Can somebody find Smerconish?

… hangin’!

All this talk about hawtness. For me, the kindly Doc Maddow fills that bill. And when she speaks out comes intelligence, compassion, humor and empathy. Combined with that “look” and that mischevious smile, well, now you’re talking must see TV.

Of course, I could never have her, which just adds to the hawt.

This Cupp chick? Remember, you’d still have to talk with her after it’s all over.

Cupp’s atheism is as fake as her eyeglasses. It’s all an act to make her stand out among the female wingnut welfare crowd. And please, Bill Maher, stop having her on your show!

Don’t know if you caught Rolling Stone’s Maddow story…

O/T, but Taibbi continues to lay into Wall St fucking small town America crime and LIBOR manipulation, which is insider trading on a massive scale….

Works for me.

We should have met, in another life…. :-)

Thanks for that. No, I hadn’t seen it yet.

GWPDA: in another life…;-)

Oh, Sweet Chuy -
In the Hamptons today, waiting for Mittens:

“A New York City donor a few cars back, who also would not give her name, said Romney needed to do a better job connecting. “I don’t think the common person is getting it,” she said from the passenger seat of a Range Rover stamped with East Hampton beach permits. “Nobody understands why Obama is hurting them.

“We’ve got the message,” she added. “But my college kid, the baby sitters, the nails ladies — everybody who’s got the right to vote — they don’t understand what’s going on. I just think if you’re lower income — one, you’re not as educated, two, they don’t understand how it works, they don’t understand how the systems work, they don’t understand the impact.”"

Oh those awful ‘others’ with the right to vote. They just don’t get it.

I’m no fan of S.E. Cupp because of what I believed to be her crazy, pseudo-Christian conservative views which for the most part are hypocritical as they go against Jesus new testament teachings. Finding out she’s an atheist actually makes her pov’s more credible for me – at least in that it diminishes the hypocrisy I’d initially ascribed to her beliefs.

This said, this ridiculous blog post is light on intelligent commentary & heavy on uncharitable catty snark in it’s attack on Cupp. There isn’t anything “wrong” or “self-loathing” about a person’s spiritual journey; Nor her stance on not voting for an atheist POTUS which she adequately explains. The fact that Cupp has an open mind to a higher power doesn’t make her “stupid or crazy” – 95% of the world believes in SOMETHING – a higher power of some kind. Believing we came from nothing puts you atheists in the minority – This is an indisputable fact. Maybe you’re the ones who are stupid & crazy for not entertaining the idea?

Whether you disagree with her or not, it’s clear Cupp isn’t an idiot. You appear to be the very intolerant (hateful, pompous, full of yourselves) Atheists she specifically said she takes issue with.

Kudos to you here for underscoring her salient & truthful point in this “hilarious & desperate” nonfactual b!tchfest of a blog post. :)

First time reading TBogg, I take it?

“The fact that Cupp has an open mind to a higher power doesn’t make her “stupid or crazy” – 95% of the world believes in SOMETHING – a higher power of some kind. Believing we came from nothing puts you atheists in the minority – This is an indisputable fact. Maybe you’re the ones who are stupid & crazy for not entertaining the idea?”

Been there, done that. I still attend Sweet Thang’s church with her, admire the communitarianism, like the genial old Vatican II priests who take their Beatitudes seriously, hell, I’ve even helped take up the collection! Still, it’s ultimately all a creation of humanity trying to make sense of a frequently bewildering world.

She’s not a real atheist, she just plays one on TV.

I love the shot where the show Cupp’s short skirt and long legs. Why not show the other female guest’s legs too. Cupp is a poor attempt at having a semi-quasi-psuedo-smart chick on a news show. Like Fox-lite. More stupid, less fulfilling.