Romney said, “I’m sorry, Jim, I’m gonna stop the subsidy to PBS…. I like PBS, I love Big Bird — I actually like, you too — but I am not going to keep spending money on things [we have] to borrow money from China to pay for.”
Little did I know when I posted the graphic last night for the debate, that it would be so representative of the candidates who hit the stage in Denver.
Barack Obama was too cool for school, so much so that he barely bothered to show up. His answers were listless and at times he seemed almost put out that he was having to explain this shit yet again. Mitt Romney, on the other hand, was as frantic as a drowning man, so desperate for a handhold that he would say anything and climb over anyone (including a barely sentient, possibly already dead Jim Lehrer) in order to save his foundering campaign. When Romney spoke it was like a fire hose with no shut-off valve, and he damn well was not going to let that withered fool Lehrer interrupt his flow. And flow Mitt did, with equal parts bullshit, lies, and disavowals of any previous statements or crazy talk that may have emanated from the obviously incompetent Romney campaign or, possibly, Mitt Romney’s evil twin Ttim (the first ‘T’ is silent).
As for Obama, oh Bammer, you mailed it in and you sent it to the wrong address. Let Charlie Pierce es’plain it to you:
The only way that the wonkish, garbled, and distracted performance by the president makes any kind of sense is if the White House has internal polls that indicate that a majority of Americans believe that Willard Romney eats live chickens in praise of Satan. The basic fact of this entire campaign is that Willard Romney is a transcendently ridiculous figure. Some of it is his own doing. Some of it was forced upon him because he sought the nomination of a party that has become demented. Everything else flows from that. And, because of the president’s unaccountable lassitude — is it possible that the whole angry-black-man kerfuffle ginned up on the right on Monday got into the man’s head a little? — Willard Romney was able to portray himself as a firm, principled national figure of what passes for the rational center. I didn’t think that was possible.
What you saw, I think, anyway, was the end product of the president’s consuming naivete as regards the American political process, as well as the end product of thirty years of a Democratic Party that has slid so far to the center-right that a Democratic president found himself arguing with a “severely conservative” Republican candidate over the issues of how much the Democratic president had cut out of the budget, how many regulations he’d trimmed, how much more devoted to the middle-class-kick-in-the-balls Simpson-Bowles “plan” he is, and how he would “reform” Social Security and Medicare — and, frankly, a Democratic president losing some of those arguments to his left.
Despite what John Hinderaker thinks (particularly since ol’ Hindrocket is forever lost in space, drifting somewhere in the Crazy Nebula, home to Jen Rubin Bizzaro world) the race isn’t over and there was no game changer. But debates are about attitude not details and the election got a little bit closer than it needed to because Obama showed up not only not ready to play, but unwilling to run up the score.
That needs to change.





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The “Republican-idea loving” Obama of the health care debates needs to go back to 2010.
Oh dear. From hippie-punching to not-hippie-punching to Obama-punching.
It matters not even diddly squat who gets punched around here or wherever there’s a leftie blogosphere, Obama wins or loses on his record over the past 4 years and how he presents himself now.
That old Union Fight Song, “Whose Side Are You On” comes to mind and the only thing Fence-Straddling manages to do is jam up the balls.
Stuck in the backwaters of Central Africa with a total internet outage for the past 24 hours, I only heard a brief summary of the debate on shortwave radio this morning. The two soundbites that the BBC opted to air was Mitt telling us how he’s always looked out for the middle class, and then Obama stumbling through something incoherent and muddled about the middle class having received lots of tax cuts from his administration since ’08, so couldn’t they just go out and buy themselves a car for the economy’s sake, and then shut up, already.
It was pretty bizarre and not a little disturbing to realize that Mr. I’m nothing if not smooth really could blow this thing through sheer arrogance and out-of-touchedness… and, no, alas, I’m not talking about Mitt Romney.
My Debate Scorecard–
Lying Sack Of Shit: 1
President Obama: 0
As for the whole “angry black man” thing, Obama might do well to remember the age-old advice of the Confucians:
“Better for man to be pissed off, than pissed on.”
Well, you nailed it, TBogg. I was squirming in my seat, shouting at the President to SAY SOMETHING in revuttal to those outrageous lies Romney was pooping out. It was happening in slow motion, like a fly being drowned in amber.
Let’s hope Obama wakes up for future debates and stops with the Mr Rogers routine. (Mr Rogers was on PBS, too)
Fantastic piece by Charles Pierce.
Last two sentences? Yep.
I’m not going to spoil my beautiful mind by ruminating on why the fuck the Obama campaign or Obama himself did not know this to be true.
Well said, sir. Very frustrating. Especially that Obama let the $700 billion ‘cut to medicare’ lie slide, what, four times? My glass half full view is that Mittens denied his own words and lied so much, it will come back to haunt him in the next debate, IF the President steps on him for it.
Pierce: ‘Willard Romney is a transcendently ridiculous figure’. So pithy, so perfect.
And Lehrer looked like Marty Feldmen after a three week alcohol and coke binge.
Great postmortem, Mr. Bogg. The Prez did, in fact, (snail) mail it in and (consequently) got his ass kicked up and down the street in the process – and by an empty suit, no less.
Ain’t that some shit?
As an aside, I would note that all this bad-mouthing of China is (as General Corman might characterize it) unsound.
As D.L. Hughley was very recently moved to remark (paraphrasing), “…China is our landlord. Talk shit to your landlord and see how that shit work out…”
Lehrer definitely had that coal-black, demon eyes thing goin’ on.
Last night both Obama and Romney did their best Clint Eastwood impressions debating empty chairs.
They will not, however, be invited to appear on America’s Got Talent.
I would imagine the debate went like it did because Obama still wants the votes of progressives he has spent the last 3.5 year piddlin' on. I watched the extended debate on Democracy Now!. O, if that the alternates were there of only to force some real answers!
Why did O not say anything about the 47% or the $716b. That number can be defended. The article in WaPO awile back did a nice job of it. Romeny nailed him at least four times on it. and WTF is the bullshit on the grand bargain four trillion dollar cut? Once you say that and then you try to talk about defending the social safety net you have crossed over to cognitive dissonance. Com’on man, you are supposed to be democrat defender of jobs and the safety net. Where did you go last night? This is a losing strategy. I am going to stay in bed all day today. This really sucks.
CNN 67% Romney. 25% Obama. Back to bed.
Bingo! What do you think he’s been doing for the last 4 years?
Color me unsurprised.
No I chose not to watch the train wreck.
Thanks for the summation, TBogg.
The worst part of it for me, was the facial cues. Obama looked like a pissed off kid being taken to the woodshed by Daddy and Romney looked like an indulgent, pitying parent.
Not good at all.
They sure were yukking it up afterwards tho, weren’t they?
Unless last night was just more of the same “I heart republicans more than democrats” Kabuki.
I don’t see how a smart guy like Obama could ever have thought this would go over with the political virgins tuning in to decide, once and for all, who they’d cast their vote for.
He may not get a second chance. The next “debate”
may notprobably won’t garner the attention this one did.I know I will not waste another hour and a half watching Obama hand America to Robme
How can one not comment? Willard was so confusing – how can you repeal the Affordable Car Act (Obamacare) and replace it with your own (retaining pre-existing conditions and kids stay on their parents policy until they are 26) as well as have States do it themselves? Will it be bipartisan?
How do you maintain Medicare for those over 55 when NO one below that age is paying into Medicare any longer?
How do you lower taxes, increase the military and still balance the budget?
And how do you help pre-school children if Big Bird is gone?
The loser of the night (if you need to play sports) was the substitute referee – Jim Leher?
But, the President probably did not want to continually say – Willard is lying all night!!!!M
Wondering who’s first to contradict Romney’s debate lies:
Romney on the stump
Ryan on the stump
R/R campaign walkback strike force
Lehrer lacked the clock speed to keep up with Romney’s running over him. Big Bird would have been better. Let’s hope for a less muppet-like performance from the next mods.
Can’t imagine Shieffer will do any better. Have a hard time seeing Crowley not favoring the horse race.
The MSNBC crew gave Romney the award for dominating time of possession, although the only account of that I have seen so far shows Obama to have used more of the clock, despite appearances. Obama definitely spent more time not obviously lying.
Sure felt like Lehrer let Romney get away with awarding himself the last word regardless of who started.
Wordcloud summary: Romney just going make medicare people get tax.
I did like the little Mitt’s Very Busy First Day in Office bit Obama threw in.
I’d rather see a veracity chart than the CNN mood chart at the bottom of the screen.
Of course Romney and cronies are dangerous madmen. It was Obama’s place to expose that. Instead he made every crazy conservative idea seem reasonable by saying and implying that he agreed with the GOP that, among other things, the social safety net benefits must be cut and that his disagreements are mostly in process.
He didn’t even take time out to challenge Romney on his characterizing poor people as whining dependent takers.– or point out that Romney was trying to wipe out his past remarks.
The general consensus seems to be that Romney won the debate by a lot.
Some Obama apologists are saying that he was protecting his good likeability ratings. However, I think people really like Presidential candidates who are alert, smart and in command of the facts.
The only excuse for his performance would be some super secret crisis that had kept up around the clock for the 96 consecutive hours just prior to the debate.
I wonder, though, how all the Republicans who infiltrated PBS during the Bush years feel about Romney’s promise to cut off PBS. Karma.
The talking heads of cable news have declared Romney the winner in the first debate. But here is what most non-partisan viewers likely concluded:
This is why Romney lost:
1) He came on like that kid in school who keeps jerking his hand up and pleading, “O-o-me, me, me!
2) As in keeping with his well-known narcissism, he can never calmly endure when someone else is talking instead of himself. He needs rapt exclusive attention at all times: it’s all about him all the time and he showed it throughout this debate.
3) He bullied the moderator
4) He patronized the President by his condescending expression, like some smug self-impressed superior to an inferior.
5) Finally, his hyper personality was not only unpresidential, it was downright painful to watch….
Oh, and he talked too fast, like a used car salesman….
CNN’s polled only College educated 50+ year old Southern Whites.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/10/03/top12.pdf
Page 8
That was a great piece by Pierce. Thanks Tbogg.
Sounds like the biggest losers are the American People (so what else is new). Thanks for watching (I couldn’t) and reporting.
Turkey’s parliament authorises military action in Syria
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19830928
You quoting Pierce is like a nebula singularity of excellent writing and on-point analysis. Not sure America could survive it; luckily you’ve stayed tucked in your basset-filled corner unafraid to take the many offers I’m sure you get to move up to The Big Show.
You are da man. Uncle Charlie is America’s not-Drunk Uncle from SNL. Thank the goddesses for both of you, TBogg. You, and he, rock it hard and down.
Luv ya, man.
Teddy
PS Not to violate any norms of no-actual-physical harm advocacy, but who will take Lehrer out behind the barn?
Please, no news here! We’re American Media, we have a Horse Race to handicap…. be gone with your Outsider Info about Other Peoples and their Wars, please!
Yeah TBogg, that’s what America really needs more of, Loud-mouthed liars.
Someone wise once said “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining”. This is what we witnessed coming out of Mitten’s pie hole last night and Obama should have pointed it out…me thinks Joe Biden will not be so reticent.
Turkey is a NATO ally.
Their war is Our war.
As Romney walked all over Lehrer, it was another reminder that rules are not for the 1%. It does not matter how the system is set up to be as fair as possible, the Romney’s of the world will abuse any system – even a piddly set of debate rules.
Yeah, I’m looking forward to THAT one. Hoping for a Biden floor wiping with that whiny little Ayn Randian look a like Eddie Munster Ryan.
If not America’s Got Talent certainly “Celebrity Apprentice.”
The new meme coming out of this faux debate was “trickle down government.” You’ll be hearing a lot of that.
“The only way that the wonkish, garbled, and distracted performance by the president makes any kind of sense is …”
… Obama wanted to bring Romney back into the race.
Two days ago this presidential election was over. It is difficult to imagine the southern Evangelical Republican base turning out in great numbers to vote for a New England Yankee who believes Jesus was a failure. Fewer would have bothered to vote if they knew Romney was bound to loose.
Lower turnout by the Republicn base would not only give Obama a big win in November but the Democrats would have picked up seats in both houses of congress – possibly even taking control of both the senate and the house.
With control of both the executive and the legislative branches of government it would be more difficult for Democrats to implement the elite’s agenda.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/10/29/our-third-karpian-moment/
“I can’t wait until the debates and Obama kicks Romney’s ass!”
I can’t remember how many times I read that. It’s obvious Obama hasn’t lived up to many peoples’ expectations.
Goddamn him!
Parts of the debate soundled like Mitt was running to the left of Obama.
I was always wondering when a gopper would get around to doing that.
It worked for Obama in 2008.
Recall that in the 2008 vice-presidential debate Sara Palin blithely assured 67 million viewers that she did not think it was her responsibility to answer the debate moderators questions.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/10/gwens-take-debunking-five-myths-about-presidential-debates.html
The debate moderator may not want to argue with the candidate that ducks the question (or lies in their answer)because the moderator feels it is the opposing candidates responsibility. But the moderator should point out that the opposing candidate is a wimp and allowing this to occur.
Will Big Bird now become just one more trophy strapped to the roof of Mitt’s car?
if the big zero did extremely well it might help the congressional and senate races. then they would have to actually accomplish some old school democratic goals. NO- better to keep non filibuster proof no action congress he has now so he can continue his clinton democrat in name only ,corporate sell,war criminal ways.Wait for the great bargain he will strike implementing long term republican goals. hear me now believe me later…………..
I didn’t watch the debates in real time last night because I knew that they wouldn’t resolve much of anything, except to snooker Sheldon Adelson into tossing a few extra tens of millions at Mittens — money he then won’t have to toss at congressional races. (Just as it played out last time, when all his big woofings about Freedom’s Watch came to naught, I don’t think Adelson has much ready cash to spend on this, what with propping up Likud as well. Unless, of course, his Chinese partners help him out a little.)
But then, after so many people who apparently didn’t know or remember that Obama has historically been worse at debates than at speeches were either cackling with glee or staring at their wrists, I sat down and watched the videos that were already popping up online.
What I saw was Obama playing by old-school debating rules, and allowing Romney to run off his mouth, lie, and grandstand. More importantly, I saw Romney cheerfully serving up lots of quotes that not only were filled with lies, but baldly contradicted Romney’s own previous statements — and I’m not talking about statements from last year, but last week. Those statements are even now being inserted into “Flip-Flopper Mitt” or “Etch-a-Sketch Mitt” ads by the DNC (or “Mitt, were you lying then or are you lying now?” ads by Dem-aligned SuperPACs).
So now is it OK to express misgivings and criticism of Obama over here without being shredded?
Actually, Charlie Cook stated earlier this week that Romney’s performance wasn’t why the GOP efforts to take the Senate were failing: “For the most part, the deterioration of the Senate outlook is unrelated to Romney’s problems at the top of the ticket, and it comes despite a strong effort by the National Republican Senatorial Committee.”
Depends on how you define “without getting shredded”. If you mean “say any silly thing I want and not expect to have to back it up”, you’re out of luck.
Hell, I get “shredded” a lot, in the sense of “we’re going to shout you down because you said something we don’t like but can’t disprove”, in various places online. I’ve been “shredded” here and I’ve been “shredded” at MyFDL, where for the folks who moved in a year and a half ago and now dominate the discourse there, conspiracy theories are A-OK but anyone bringing up people’s well-documented tendency to seek out authoritarian leaders when the going gets nasty (and using the example of 1930s Germany along with 2001 America’s 9/11 response) are hit with Godwin’s law.
true dat.
Romney was doing one long Etch-a-Sketch shaking, contradicting his own recent statements on pretty much everything, knowing he’d never be called out in real time. And I suspect Obama let him do it in part because those statements will look rather interesting when contrasted, in campaign ads that will be hitting the battleground states soon, with his previous statements.
And Russia’s having a lot less luck reining in Syria than we are at getting the Turks not to react to Assad’s provocations.
We dun’t need no stinkni’ public broadcastin’
I’m not so much a political junkie as a casual user. I decided to watch the Twins-Blue Jays game instead. Sounds like Romney played the Blue Jays to Obama’s Twins.
I had a great night, thank you very much.
The Simon & Simon marathon on CLOO was fabulous. I don’t know how Gerald McRaney never won an Emmy.
Actually, Romney was losing money to House and Senate GOP candidates before last night:
I’d read elsewhere, earlier this week, that Romney had one week to go before big donors like Adelson dumped him and concentrated on the House and Senate races. If Obama really did throw the debate — and remember, Obama has historically done worse at debates than with speeches (google “Obama 2008 debates” to refresh your memory) — then what he did, in essence, was to force Adelson to keep spending money on Mitt Romney.
And again, as I already noted, Romney’s success or failure isn’t really impacting the rest of the ticket, per Charlie Cook. They’re failing on their own, without Mitt’s help.
Obama looked like he had taklen 2 Zanax.
Is it “zanax” or “xanax”????
When compared to the number who watched this debate, far more people will see the campaign ads generated by Rmoney’s ‘admissions’. Copping to VoucherCare is a political loser, period, and now Rmoney’s team is having to explain that no, his version of national Romneycare won’t include pre-existing conditions – that will be up to the states.
What a difference a day makes, who would of thought Willard the Lame could bitch slap Zero so effectively.
Now it’s up to Joe Hairplugs to save the day? I can feel the panic growing as the true believers Duck and Cover.
Wait, the Obama-criticizers have a point now that you’ve seen Obama in action?
Well, took you long enough. But welcome to the party anyways.
I’m guessing the Adelson Valve was turned back to the “On” position this morning.
Um, yeah. My eyes have been opened.
Sheesh….
Oh look, I see the usual folks have come out to talk trash. Too funny.
Yeeeehaw I now trust that Romney will say whatever the bugfuck is required to become El Presidente and then Bushout and let Paul “lil Dick Cheney” Ryan call the shots. #Winning
my point was that zero’s mediocre perfermance benefits the otherwise failing republican outlook. the american people are realizing that there is no benefit to the middle class/income from reganomics so now the country needs to be controlled thru democratic sellouts
Is that a river in your pants or are you just happy to see me?
CNN is awash in the Firing Big Bird story now, by the way. Like you, I predicted the moment that Romney said it that that’s what would be remembered today, at least as much as anything else.
Don’t forget two things: Obama wasn’t very combative in debates with Hillary Clinton, he kept saying “Hillary and I actually agree about this..” and the rending of garments among his supporters boosted sales at The North Face for months, I think I remember hearing. She didn’t win the nomination, we may recall.
Also Sarah Palin “Hit one out of the park!” according to the entire Village in her acceptance speech. This is really all a contest only pundits know about, in which whoever is most “confident” wins, and if you’re confident by being a complete raging lying asshole that’s inconsequential to them. So yes, Obama could “bring it” more and etc but mostly it would just make us feel better.
By the way:
definitely gives new meaning to “fly fishing”.
Okay I thought of a better joke and it was too late to edit. So sue me.
We now know that there are two Obamas:
* The real Obama is President Lawn Chair, who really is on board with the Republican agenda and folds at every opportunity.
* Campaign Obama, who can get elected as a Democrat.
He seemed to be too tired/distracted to do his act as Campaign Obama. Maybe the Turkey/Syria situation is really a thing and he has to pay attention to his day job?
Maybe the Turkey/Syria situation is really a thing
Such cogent analysis! I see a bright future at Fox for you.
I remember back in 1984 when Mondale totally mopped the floor with Reagan in the first presidential debate. Everybody talked about how doddering and out of it Reagan seemed. I don’t seem to recall the Mondale presidency that followed however.
Can we get the bassetts early today. C’mon, we deserve it after dealing with these firebaggers. I know I don’t live in Gumdrop Puddin’ Pop Chocolate Marshmallow Keebler Elves Fairyland.They don’t and they never will.
I am ashamed to say that I turned the whole thing off after the first ‘question’. I’ve never been so dulled. But then, honestly? I thought AlGore was on fire in his debates. I LIKE wonks – but wish the President had actually been on stage last night.
Mr Obama left his suit at the cleaners and you know, when you don’t have it right, well it’s hard to go on. So he stayed home. I see on HP Mr OBAMA now brings up the 47%. Nice job.
The problem is that the President, instead of the Candidate, was on state last night.
Perhaps.
After this PR disaster i expect that Zero will declare Willard an enemy combatant and call in Drone strikes on his campaign bus. Or they might render him to the Black Site Prison where they keep Joe Biden most of the time.
WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIIIIIIEEEEEEE …. SAVE US GREEEEEENNNN PARTY!
It was a fucking debate, a staged, sterile event that will have about as much effect on the election as Jill Stein and Gary Johnson.
That’s why there is baseball, people. Thrilling finishes and cold beer. Lots of cold beer.
What really pisses me off about this debate is that Lehrer made a big deal at the top of the program explaining what steps were taken to insure that the debate would be impartial, and outlined the time limits for each segment. Then he failed to keep the candidates on time and on topic. And by candidates, I mostly mean Romney–because once he got going, he just didn’t shut up. I’m not sure if Lehrer was so much “bullied” by the threat of PBS’s funds being cut as he was mesmerized by the river of undiluted bullshit flowing from Romney’s pie hole, but the whole debate lost ANY meaning for me past the first question.
Plus Obama needs to stop making those damn faces when “Willard the Rat” lies. It makes people upset that he doesn’t say something snotty in response–which some people seem to equate with competence.
Posted this firebagger comment this AM,
I am reading TBogg’s debate piece up top quoting Charlie Pierce’s brilliant post on the debate.
I can’t help but find it a bit ironic that this same TBogg flamed all over a number of commentors recently for insufficient Obama worship.
Karma?.
I don’t think that those words mean what you think they mean.
Funny how you ignore the daily killings committed by agents of our government right here in America-land. Not with drones, but guns, and batons and tasers up and close and personal-like. Why does that not bother you? Why is it that we watch, on a daily basis, armed, be-badged agents of government kill fellow citizens without the least thought of due process, but when it’s done in a foreign land it’s the greatest crime ever committed?
Killing a man in Pakistan who has declared his sole purpose in life is to kill fellow American citizens makes a lot of fucking sense. You’ll kick and scream about innocents dying as well and then never pay attention to the latest botched drug raid that kills an elderly woman, wholly innocent, who was sitting quietly at home when the SWAT team came-a-knocking.
Have you ever read a credible history book? A simple essay on foreign policy, warfare? Are you that willfully ignorant to stomp your feet about a subject you know absolutely nothing about and then go a-keeining on the blogs as if you are accomplishing something?
Firebaggers indeed.
You will, of course, be able to point out exactly when and where people were “flamed” over “insufficient Obama worship” as opposed to having it pointed out to the that voting for Jill Stein was moral masturbation of the most narcissistic kind.
Or, quite possibly, you’ll just admit that you don’t know what words mean.
Other than that, congratulations of having your letter to the editor published. You must be very proud.
Quoting Charlie,
“What you saw, I think, anyway, was the end product of the president’s consuming naivete as regards the American political process, as well as the end product of thirty years of a Democratic Party that has slid so far to the center-right that a Democratic president found himself arguing with a “severely conservative” Republican candidate over the issues of how much the Democratic president had cut out of the budget, how many regulations he’d trimmed, how much more devoted to the middle-class-kick-in-the-balls Simpson-Bowles “plan” he is, and how he would “reform” Social Security and Medicare — and, frankly, a Democratic president losing some of those arguments to his left.”
I rest my case.
See ya later . No harm intended. Just snark my man.
Eh? Did you say something?
You have a case? Just a second ago, you were abusing the concept of Karma and engaging in an exaggerated whine about something that didn’t happen.
Now that is a strategy to take back whatever O lost last night. Maybe they should employ Jon Stewart to come up with the ads.
And we don’t need no stinkin banks at the post office – until we make it private.
Since you know nothing about my history with regard to police brutality and even shooting i’ll let your lame response slide.
Our domestic policy is a reflection of our foreign policy and always has been.
Someone actually fed ‘Lil Luke a good line:
Everybody needs to chill the fuck out. The series isn’t over. No way they’re going to let Willard pull off that act for two more debates.
Oh go fuck a goat you caterwauling fumbledeick. Playing serious political commentator on a fucking snark blog means you have no fucking point and that makes you dull.
I don’t think there’s much to worry about. It’s early days, Obama will do better in the other two formats, and worst case, some of (the few) undecided voters have been charmed (for some inexplicable reason) by Romney’s glib dissembling. Among the decided, the Rs are orgasmic and a lot of the Ds are unnecessarily despondent. All for nought, but at least the wingers will have had a few days of joy to come crashing down from. That’ll be fun.
Yup. As noted commie Dancin’ Dave Cameron pointed out this summer (quoted in the trotskyite Telegraph): “Of course it’s easier if you hold an Olympic games in the middle of nowhere.” Likewise, it’s easy to look like you’re winning a debate when you lie very loudly, and repeat the lies when called on them. It’s depressing to witness, but it’s not going to last a full month and a bit.
Huh? It looks like most of the people here are chilling out. Now, the hysterics over at dkos are another story….
HA Just got word that Romney is gonna promise a pony to all you Jillers out there in the second debate.
He is a master debater. giddyup
A commenter on Andrew Sullivan’s blog suspects that the next debate, in a town hall setting, will be mighty uncomfortable for Mitt … and that’s when Obama will hit him with the 47%, etc. stuff.
Or maybe this.
President Obama started the day Energised and on the attack after last night’s crushing defeat according to MSNBC.
Michelle Obama is resting after a long night in black leather inflicting enhanced motivation techniques on the President’s already tender behind.
In other news Big Bird is sharing an undisclosed location with Salman Rushdie after last night’s death Fatwa from Willard,show no mercy, Romney.
I know hippie punching is fashionable these days, but finally! Thank you, Charlie, for pointing out how far to the right this country has drifted in the last 30 years. And finally, criticism for a Democratic president who has governed to the right of Nixon, to the right of Eisenhower, is an admitted blue dog, and I would lay better than even odds that he would cripple social security and medicare if given half a chance, all in the name of pretend fiscal policy that somehow magically isn’t a problem during Republican administrations. I breathe a breath of fresh air, because, let’s face it, most of what we hear on this site and others is that we can’t criticize him, that criticism=voting green or something (it doesn’t), and he gets a free pass because he’s got a D next to his name and look at the alternative. It took that alternative going to Obama’s left last night for some to get it, even if he lied through his teeth, but what the hell.
I hope Obama and his political advisors are finally getting what the great Harry Perkins said (oh, how we need one of you now, Harry) when advised by his Chancellor to move to the center, “I once tried middle of the road, got run down by traffic in both directions.”
Oh sweet mother of historical motherfucking ignorance, as if Charlie Fucking Pierce is the first sentient human being to make the point that the political drift in this nation has been to the right.
You know the fuck why? Do you? Take that handkerchief out of your motherfucking purity troll pocket and wipe away your tears, here’s another fucking bombshell that has never been uttered by anyone at anytime until this very motherfucking moment — Corporate money and control!
Send me a fucking payment you gobsmacked hagfish, I just laid some serious motherfucking Neil DeGrasse Tyson learnin’ on yo ass!
You want another fucking simple-minded explanation? Well, do ya punk? Look at your local fucking school board, then your city council and your county supervisors, then your motherfucking state legislature and then at the dipshits who have been able to be elected to congress. Notice a motherfucking trend, skippy?
Yeah, that’s right, scads of motherfucking tea-bagger and tea-bagger lite dipshits being fed gobs of cash from the likes of the Koch brothers and their ilk and all you can think to do is wring your purelle-purified hands and shake your head in that condescending and annoying fucking manner about how we’re just all adrift and we were badly bamboozled by the smooth-talking Hawaiian hipster.
Motherfucking simpering codswallop. No one’s is preventing you from criticizing anyone, you get fucking criticized because you possess tunnel vision that a fucking Paul Ryan-built train would fucking envy. You get mocked because this isn’t — as has been pointed out over and fucking over again — happy fucking gumdrop land and the lollipop guild aint gonna save your ass.
They are literally, in-the-motherfucking-open-and-diligently conspiring to keep people from voting, to keep people from exercising their very basic human rights and you’re only worried about being criticized on a motherfucking blog that revolves around whip-smart writing and in-bred motherfucking dogs!
Excellent rant, Humboldt. Next time tell the purity troll how you really feel.
You win the internetz today.
Gosh, I sure hope so. But I have spent most of the Obama presidency waiting for the Superior Minds in Charge to dazzle me with the sheer brilliance of their strategy even as I sit, downhearted, watching them played for fools who really think that a) voters KNOW anything and that b) the incredible spin on their Double English Butterscotch Twist serve will leave the opposition flailing madly for 20 seconds after their opportunity to connect.
I’m still waiting. And only the degenerate, racist, classist monster that is today’s GOP provides the incentive.
What? No “truth to power” from you today?
I just realized that the picture of Big Bird (above) shows him with a–a PIERCING! That DFH can kiss his funding goodbye….
Why didn’t he say that LAST NIGHT?
Also, he had Romney’s 47% to work with and didn’t use it. LAME. I hope he doesn’t assume the election is in the bag and he can coast.
See also here.
Lesley, how about this?
The difference is that Mr. Rogers went to Congress and used his powers of persuasion to convince stone-hearted conservatives to let PBS keep on doing what it was doing.
The man in the sweater walked into the lions’ den armed only with decency and fucking broke them down and changed their hearts and minds. It was an incredible performance, and completely sincere on his part.
We need you now, Fred Rogers.
Well, there you go. So, naturally, funding PBS is outta here because we borrow money from China to pay for it, but funding twelve carrier battle groups, for example, is okay because we don’t borrow their money to pay for those. That makes perfect sense.
Wait a minute….
Is that a New York license plate?
Sure looks like a New York license plate.
So, someone help me out with this one:
Given that I’m not in a swing state, so my vote for President doesn’t count at all, why wouldn’t I vote for Stein? I can’t help Obama, and I can’t help Romney. Isn’t that more or less the definition of when the Obamans say I should be “allowed” to register my displeasure — when Obama can safely totally ignore me?
Damn, I’m going trolling through here more often, ….. gobsmacked hagfish…. I gotta bingit.