Oh Tbogg, you do have a way with the headline.

Yeh. Gotta wonder how the teabagging Catholic closetcases like Scalia, Alito and Roberts will rule.

Jane, agreed. Quite a headline.

Seriously, or not, this could be the “Greatest Show on Earth”, apologies to Barnum & Bailey of course. This group of justices, allegedly the finest in the country, attempting to “channel” our founding fathers “intent” coincerning “gay marriage”………that’s an “E” ticket ride in anybody’a park.

Oh, I’m sure there were a few fops, toffs, and pimpernels among the hallowed Founders.

*Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Let’s hope the Supremes don’t balls it up, but I won’t hold my breath.

Tbogg. Disgusting headline. I know you have opinions and observations worthy of respect. But your repetitive resorting to filthy language really turns off people who otherwise might take you seriously.

Tbogg,

Mr. D. Scott! He experienced “balls deep,” also, Taney’s Court. Hope it is not Taney’s precedent followed by the “balls deep” Robert’s court with a dose of “rock salt” mixed in with that KY Jelly before meeting the “proctologists” for the exam?

It is the year 2012, soon to be 2013, not March 6th 1857, with a “SCOTUS,” mired in ignorance, still?

Someone might want to remind the Justices of these facts, politely!

Then don’t read it. Turn the page, puritan.

I do love that pic. I wonder how it missed the gossipy pages of the Wall Street Journal?

But your repetitive resorting to filthy language really turns off people who otherwise might take you seriously.

Eh, fuck’em.

As June Cleaver oft said to Ward, “I think you’re being a little hard on the Beaver.”

Language notwithstanding, your journalistic integrity, to me, is generally, more often than not, well within acceptable guidelines, using the George Carlin algorithm.

WHOA, back up the truck…(beep beep). Three of the nine justices don’t have any of what some seem to find offensive.

Well, at least two.

———> Corner

There are only two religions represented on the Supreme Court, catholic and jewish.

http://www.factmonster.com/us/supreme-court/supreme-court-members.html

How the hell did THAT happen?????

I foresee something like the Scopes trial but with much more fashionably dressed legal teams (at least on one side). Less monkey, more Michael Kors. Probably more bible quoting, though.

There are two separate cases with two diierent issues. The DOMA case is all about federalism and states rights. Marriage has always been defined by state law. If a state wishes to legalize gay marriage,can the Federal govt. refuse to recognize it?The answer is no,it is a fundamental of constitional law that the Federal govt. must treat all states equally.If New York says gays can marry,the Federal govt. must recognize that marriage.

However,on the California case,the issue is vastly different. It is,is there is Federal constitional right for gay marriage that a state must recognize like they must recognize interracial marriage?I think the answer on this issue is No,its up to the states to decide for themselves on the issue of gay marriage.

sadpathetic and also scary

I bet when Thomas hears “same sex marriage” to him it means what he’s been confined to ever since despite managing to brazen it out in the hearings he realized he better ixnay the irtskay asingchay because everyone would be watching him like a hawk. No wonder he always looks grumpy, old habits die hard.

I agree. But let’s remember we now have visual aids, computer generated graphics and imaging. THis could come down to Hollywood versus The Bible. What exactly did our founding fathers mean when they said “all men are created equal with certain unalienable rights.” Was this one of those rights?

See my #3. I’d bet Thomas is awake for this one.

I think this time it should the Snopes Trial, with every BS “fact” the right wingers bring up about sexuality debunked and fact checked on the spot.

So you’re saying the answer is “yes” and “no”.

See my #3. Ibet they break into regular progamming for this.

Great Great Headline, TBogg !

When I heard the news, I immediately thought of this photo, Teddy Partridge & all the laughs we had about Roberts’ closeted life.

Scalia & H8ers Vs Olson & Boies …should be livecast !

Yep. Fully expect Roberts to resort to his old ways on this one to get back into the good graces of the godbotherers/oligarch coalition.

Not quite sure how a court that says money is free speech will justify that fellatio and cunnilingus aren’t.

So, you predict 5-4 against?

Interesting observation.

I can’t wait for the video.

“Pay Per View”?????

Watch yer language people! Some guidance here.
(source)

A well turned phrase makes encourages reading. Smearing her vagina in the face of the reader does not. TBogg needs a lesson in the power of good manners and literacy.

Side with Taney? Declare gays inferior under the lawlessness of the land and deny people protection of law because of sexual preference, as Scott was fucked for skin color.

I believe in being proactive. Call them out on a “potential scumbag’s decisions,” before the fact, to prevent people from getting hosed, and a nation screwed after the fact, a was Mr Scott and the nation’s situation after the Taney decision. Go read your history books SJC! No rewrite of history required here?

Immoral, moralizers suck.

Peace V…….

What about analingus? For Christs sake what about ANALINGUS???

OK, how about “…the illicit joining of the pee-pees”?

Mr. Pierces pen.

TBogg needs a lesson in the power of good manners

Serious question: are you new here?

As far as literacy goes – fwiw and to the extent it is relevant in your mind (it is in mine) – TBogg is an avid reader, and furthermore, a reader of literature that often doesn’t fit his online brand of humor (including the [IMO] hilarious pulp fiction book covers). I wish I had the scheduling self-discipline to do likewise, but alas…
I do enjoy following the occasional discussions here of good reads, though [also, too, though comments appear to have been lost], which for now will have to be “close enough” for me.

Returning (I think) to the topic at hand, this is a very bad place to seek highbrow or even middlebrow (is that a thing?) humor.

“Smearing her vagina in the face of the reader does not.”

TBogg did no such thing, Puritan. TBogg used a term, “balls deeps,” to adequately describe a potential decision coming from this court, which if you have ever had the misfortune of being anally rape, by “Bubba” in prison, sodomized as they say, you might understand, “balls deep.”

Or a priest sodomizing a child, and getting away with it, protected by a church, “balls deep.”

“TBogg needs a lesson in the power of good manners and literacy.”

Really… You sound like one of those segregationist state cops who tried to cave in John Lewis’s head?

Yup them civil right’s folk need a “lesson in the power of manners and literacy.” See this. Read…. You can’t vote cause you can’t register to vote…. Can’t you read! Are you illiterate? “No colored allowed.”

The term “pathetic” comes to mind, to a, your puritanical response to a title? STFU!

Not from you, however, were that even so.

Now. You meant to go down the hall to the left – that’s where the prissy pants lecturer is speaking tonight. G’bye

Since you’re a fan of the well-turned phrase, might I invite you to eat a bag of salted dicks?

This kind of language you and the other children defend communicates about as meaningfully as the children in the back seat saying “poot” to each other and giggling.

What is pathetic are those who cannot express themselves without resorting to gutter metaphors. TBogg’s consistent need to do this is pathetic and does not further his cause.

Whoever asked. I have been a supporter of FDL for sometime because on the whole the writing is so good and informative. This kind of headline lowers the standard.

Maybe you aren’t aware of this, but before joining FDL, TBogg had a blog of his own, which regularly featured both headlines and content utilizing the language that so offends your sensibilities, and Jane asked him to come over to FDL knowing full well who TBogg was and fully expecting TBogg to be TBogg.

You, having been a supporter of FDL for quite some time, should defer to, and dare I say, support Jane’s decision to bring TBogg aboard, and if his language so offends you, should simply decline to read what he writes. Then all of us who find his potty-mouthed musings on current events uproariously funny can go on enjoying what we enjoy, and you can avoid being offended. Deal?

Somehow, one gets the impression that we’ve been visited by a fan of the 50 Shades of Gray series.

You know, those books that are all about hardcore fucking and somehow manage to avoid calling naughty body parts by not only their porn names, but their proper names as well.

A side issue with the Prop 8 case, I wonder . . .

If SCOTUS rules against Prop 8, they may also weaken the Calif referendum process insofar as direct access to the state constitution by a measure on the ballot.

OTH if SCOTUS rules in favor of Prop 8, that could essentially be a slapdown upon the CA Supreme Court, i.e., the referendum process would trump the court whenever it’s about a constitutional measure.

Won’t the process, itself, be affected one way or another whatever SCOTUS does? Is the Roberts court likely to weigh the impact on that process, or stick to just the merits of the right to be married?

So six out of nine supremes is a catholic? That’s kind of an imbalance, isn’t it?

This kind of language you and the other children defend communicates about as meaningfully as the children in the back seat saying “poot” to each other and giggling.

What is pathetic are those who cannot express themselves without resorting to gutter metaphors. TBogg’s consistent need to do this is pathetic and does not further his cause.

Jesus-motherfucking-christ spanking Mary Magdalene’s ass while Saul of Tarsus strums a goddamn banjo, who let my dad into TBogg’s place O snark and swear words?

Seriously, stickupyourass, this isn’t the front page of FDL where decorum, a strict adherence to universal table manners and a lack of motherfucking cursing is frowned upon, it’s TBogg, a motherfucker whose snark is so potent Ben Shapiro is now sporting a baby bump.

I’m all for politeness and being nice and speaking in even, modest terms and outlining my arguments in a rational, reasonable Brookesian fashion … ok, fuck that noise, I don’t do any of that shit and I damn sure aint gonna start now because you think the phrase “balls deep” is somehow going to damage the sterling reputation of FDL.

fuck, now I need a beer.

Teh prissy! It burns, it BURNS!!!!!!!!!!!

What is pathetic are those who cannot express themselves without resorting to gutter metaphors. TBogg’s consistent need to do this is pathetic and does not further his cause.

Sorry, but you’re mixing metaphors. TBogg’s use of “balls deep” is not a bowling reference and has nothing to do with gutters.

Have you considered changing your username to TalkingDick? It would suit you better.

Also, pull my finger.

Your scenario #1 opens up a whole other can of worms, though.

If the federal government changes policy to recognize as valid same-sex marriages performed in states where same-sex marriage is legal, does this not require that all states recognize the validity of same-sex unions? For example: a gay couple gets married in Massachusetts, and then against all logic and advice moves to Alabama. Both Massachusetts and the federal government accept their marriage as legal, but Alabama still has law on the books saying that same-sex marriage is illegal.

Wouldn’t Alabama be required, under the full faith & credit clause, to recognize as legal the marriage status of our hypothetical (and insane) same-sex couple, whether or not the state allows same-sex marriages to be performed and validated in the state of Alabama?

I’m not an attorney, but I’ve long wondered if this would be the case once DOMA was ruled unconstitutional. Seems like if both the state where the marriage is performed AND the federal government recognize the marriage as legally valid, any state where they choose to reside would have to do the same.

I have already responded more than its worth but one final. This is about what I judge to be poor manners by one writer and a few clones.

I am a great admirer of Jane and FDL and immensely admire the work that is being done. That as well as appreciative of the usual level of intellectual and civil discourse.

It is certainly not about John Lewis. Anyone who knows John Lewis and the days of the movement would be aware that civility was a prime requirement of the activists. In fact one of the last conversations MLK was to have with Andrew Young he was emphasizing that those who would march in Memphis behave civilly.

Now go have your giggles and I will retire to my evening game of Mah Jong. :-)

Yeah, if there is one thing the internet age has taught us is that good manners and what would be offensive to MLK’s ears while Andrew Young gives him a tug job are far afield from the erudite, intellectually stimulating civil discourse that is the norm when we comment on Shakira’s ass.

I will now retire to my PBR with duck in motherfuck sauce with a side of “nigga please” beans and some “bitch, you be crazy” cornbread.

Hmm, a snarky blogger blessed with race privilege snarking crudely on others equally gifted with Teh Privilege, but happily unaware and/or willfully denying this fact; and let’s not forget their AoC’s (accomplices of color), such as Gravity’s B*tch. And let’s not forget said snarky blogger’s many cult followers commenters – meep raises his hand sheepishly - who also share Teh Privilege…

-vs-

A very, and visibly (t’anks, melanin!) unprivileged class of folks trying to win their justly deserved rights as fellow humans, while operating under a burden of rules of comportment largely unknown to aforementioned Privileged Ones.

Hmmm, what’s the difference? Thinking,… thinking,… thinking… Well, I’d best take this problem out to the old abandoned warehouse, where I have room to spread out the pieces and make something of it.

In the meantime, sounds like someone needs to go to Tim Wise’s House O’ Privilege Awareness Pain. Enjoy!

Heh! Thanks for the chuckle, though I must admit your blog is the last place I would expect to attract Puritans.

It will be really funny if the Supreme Court rules that banning gay marriage violates the 14th Amendment and Scalia writes the opinion. It’s even possible.

What a strange world we live in.

It’s only free speech if you are paying for the bj or cm. That’s why the johns typically don’t get charged with a crime….only publicly shamed like a puritan stock and scarlet letter. I am positive that was the legal theory the 5 used for their ruling. Otherwise, it doesn’t make any sense and would only be done by someone personally and politically motivated.

Hey there fuckstick; I refer you to comment #1. Jane can apparently speak for herself and doesn’t need your help but thanks for dropping by.

No shit. I thought that TS was being facetious, but geezo peezo he wasn’t. And he keeps digging that hole and mansplaining to Jane (the poor innocent GIRL, you know) how offended she should be after she made it clear to him that she wasn’t.

What is pathetic are those who cannot express themselves without resorting to gutter metaphors.

Hi! I like your style! Will you wax my dolphin?

I have a feeling the only way Scalia would do that is if somebody had a gun pressed against his crotch in one hand and a finger from the other hand poised over the Enter key that when clicked would transit to Larry Flynt and Joe My God dozens of pics of a naked Nino giving it doggie-style to Mister Pubic Hair on a Coke Can.

As for Talking Stick, I believe that over on Pandagon, the “Stick Rule” for when to ban a troll was named for, and created to use, on this Stick.

They’re just words, honey. Uttering them does not make balls or vaginas magically appear in front of your face. You want to be offended by language, I suggest you go read the Citizens United decision, or the “arguments” adduced by the proponents of Prop. 8. Those are offensive.

Sticky, you’ve been a very naughty boy haven’t you?

Hah, I was thinking along similar lines, except I had in mind that innocent-looking, pleasant-sounding, self-made, up-by-his-own-bootstraps fellow William Kristol, who is always smiling and never swears when he casually and cheerfully affirms his support for killin’ a huge mess o’ people over there {waves vaguely eastward}, somewhere. Freedom Isn’t Free, Gotta Break a Few Eggs to Make an Omelet (“Freedom Omelets”?), etc.

I’m sure commenter TS would be utterly offended by what has been said about Mr. Kristol, who follows all of TS’s rules in how he conducts himself. What did that nice man do to deserve all that invective??

I refuse to believe TS is real, because anyone with a sphincter that tight would weigh as much as the Niña, the Pinta and the Santa Maria by his 21st birthday.

Ha, HB, you pulled me in on that 2nd to last paragraph and my jaw was down to my ankles. Fortunately you went “KIDDING!” before I passed out from anoxia.

And honey, WHEN did you get the idea that TBogg is a *serious* writer? Not that he doesn’t tackle *serious* subjects but teh snark is his weapon. mk?

Y’all don’t have a friggin’; clue who TalkingStick is. Missed a real opportunity there. You really did.

Does anyone really give a shit about such silly internet games?

Who gives a fuck who TalkingDick is? Why does it matter?

Is anyone really supposed to care about some big reveal where it turns out Dick was really CuntyMcLipshits who used to post those awesome haikus over at LeftyLeftClarion.blogspot.com?

“Oh, man, how could I have missed that? It was so OBVIOUS it was Cunty!”

Mother?

Retired physician Dr. W. Lorraine Watkins, perchance? [via FDL profile, and presuming I negotiated the intertoobz twists-&-turns correctly; also, CV]

If so, she sounds like a wonderful person, and she probably doesn’t need lessons from Tim Wise after all.

But still, I remain mystified by the point of her(?) visit here, and I don’t know what opportunities I may have missed. I have a tall stack of Stuff that Mystifies Me, and a tall stack of Opportunities I Have (Probably) Missed, so I guess I’ll just add a bit to both stacks, scratch my fluffy haid in momentary confusion, and move on to some activity more commensurate with my abilities.

My first thought: troll.

‘Cause, really, anyone with good manners would sit back read, research, and be sure of what was happening before they commented.

But TBogg was right. “Fuck ‘em.”

Not knowing ‘who’ TalkingStick is, is the whole point of using a pseudonym on the InterNets. Like, duh.

But why does it matter? TalkingStick just walked into Tbogg’s place and took a crap in the middle of the floor. TalkingStick could be a fucking Nobel Prize winner, but the turd is still there in all its unpolished glory.

Don’t we all love it when we are really enjoying someone’s cocktail party and someone walks into the room and tells the host that his type of party sucks and he really should be hosting a rotary meeting? …Didn’t think so.

If TalkingStick really is an intelligent person, s/he will realize that s/he crossed a line. If not, …fuck ‘em.

I smell a troll.

You raise a very important issue on the Full Faith and Credit clause on whether Aalbama would have to recognize a gay marriage performed in a state which allowed gay marriage. I have practiced law now for 47 years and frankly,I do not know the answer. The answer would be,however,what 5 justices on the Supreme Court at the time the case was decided would want in to be.

Yeah, except we know, after Roberts upheld Obamacare, he hasn’t got any balls…
Sorry, I’m half asleep and just channeled Scalia.

Well put.

I want to clearly state to everyone here that this TalkingStick asshole has no relationship whatsoever to me, StringOnAStick. I StringOnAStick, do not have a Stick up my ass, a drumcircle talkingstick in my hand so that I might emote freely and without interruption until everyone else in the circle decides to decamp from Boulder, CO forthwith, nor do I do anything other than giggle like a shroomhead at what our esteemed uberblogger Mr. TBogg throws down whenever the divine humor muse tickles his, ah, fingers; yeah, that’s it; fingers.

All right, even though you said you were leaving I couldn’t hold back. You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. MLK was a gigantic, towering, unimaginably courageous exemplar of moral righteousness and purpose and one of the most articulate and accomplished orators in history, and he didn’t work blue — but he was no more a saint than any other yobbo walking the planet. Which just makes him more of a human being, not less, and his death at the hands of the very same fascisti who wear Tea Party hats now all the more tragic and heartbreaking. Try reading some Taylor Branch. In case it has escaped your attention, the resort to profanity — however artful it is in the hands of Tbogg, driftglass, Pierce et al — is a completely appropriate response to the obscene bludgeoning the right wing has been delivering to the populace since … forever, but never so shrewdly as in these dark days. There’s a place for high-falutin’ rhetoric and there’s a place for the vernacular ass-kicking. Learn the difference.

I think it’s time for TBogg to have another fucking thread for us to fucking comment on.

I give Fox News about two days before they call upon Justice Elena Kagan to recuse herself because she plays softball and …. you know.

Well, based on the strength of THAT evidence Rupert Murdoch would have to push for the recusal of Justices Thomas and Sotomayor, as well as Chief Justice Roberts–because Americans have no guarantee that they’ve ever had straight sex, either!

Yes, this headline is certainly something Jane Roberts has never experienced from the Chief.

You win the internet.