Looks like the NRA is taking one from the pages of the fiscal cliff and debt limit negotiating strategy of the house wingnuts, the only resulting difference being more immediate death and mayhem. Or should it be the pistol cliff? The death limit?

Biden’s also talking about working around the incredibly stupid and venal Tiahrt Amendment. This is going to be fun…

I hope that’s a picture of the NRA’s collective intelligence, and where it keeps its firearms. (I remember commenting, watching a ‘Columbo’ episode where someone parked his gun there, that it was liable to lead to going off half cocked.)

“failed solutions” such as the assault weapons ban, which was successfully perforated by NRA-friendly congressfolk.

Disingenuous kinda like ‘killed my parents, claiming orphan status.’

Is there an intertubesism for that?

Meanwhile, gun shows are pushing “working solutions” like banning personal weapons:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/11/1435631/gun-show-safety/

Why do gun shows hate the 2nd amendment?

“pie-in-the-sky shine on you crazy diamond suggestions like a nationwide gun registry, closing the gun show loophole”. Wish you were here?

All I ever hear about is those mean old government goons imposing tyranny on all of us if Uncle Billy Ray is disarmed from his AR-15. Riiiiiight, because the guvment has zeros ways of taking out your crazy uncle other than to go knocking on all the doors in Podunk. Instead of gun buybacks, how about trading1gun for each dental implant.

How does Mr. LaPierre define “a well regulated militia”? I’m serious. I’ve never heard him explain this, but then again, I never listen to the asshole.

fund a massive project to develop a super-race of bulletproof children

Then, these ÜberTots can follow the McArglebargle Gambit and bum-rush Wayne LaPierre…

I was immediately reminded of HP and the Order of the Phoenix, where Moody yells at Harry for sticking his wand in his back pocket: “Better wizards than you have lost a buttock!” Okay, buttocks are on the back, but still . . .

Despite issuing press releases stating that there was nothing to talk about with Biden before the meeting, the NRA really did try hard to something something.

Personally, I hope the gun-nut groups keep ratcheting the whole thing up. The more they screech about how they need super weapons, the more regular folks look at them with squinty eyes and begin edging sideways toward the exits.

Oh, a gun. So that was the loud report and burning sensation in my groin.

-Mike Nelson, snarking at icky elf Buzz in MST3K ep The Girl in Gold Boots.

Several other gun-related news items…

David “Fluffy” Gregory will not be charged by Washington DC police, for violating DC law by possessing/showing an actual high-capacity magazine from a DC studio during a “Meet the Press” show. Team DERP – which had hoped that he would be charged in order to prove that, y’know, laws regulating firearms are all so oppressive – haz a sad.
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From Portland OR (via RawStory, from local Fox affiliate KPTV) comes the story of a couple patriots showin’ their AR-15 rifles in the low-crime neighborhood of Sellwood, because they wanted to “educate” residents, who “reacted by fleeing and calling police.” Hope that panic didn’t affect their “educability,” otherwise they’ll fail the quiz. Over at Cole’s place, folks in the comments who know Portland are not impressed:

Dunno if it’s been pointed out that Sellwood dist is a very tame middleclass ‘hood here in PDX metro. Like to see them pull this in NoPo or say Felony Flats.

Hell, they don’t even have to go all the way to Felony Flats. Come walk down Duke with your little guns, boys. Go from 52nd to the freeway and maybe I won’t think you’re a pathetic coward.

Funny that they only do this in a spot that’s just about crime-free.

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Finally, apparently Team DERP has apparently been claiming that Hitler – y’all have probably heard of him – made gun ownership more difficult in Germany in the 30s, which apparently made it easier for him to take away people freedoms. Hold on there, notes Mike Godwin (yes, THAT Godwin!), who links to some actual info:

.@TedNugent @jswatz The Nazis actually liberalized gun ownership when they replaced Weimar gun-control laws. http://tinyurl.com/25vad69

In favor of Team DERP, the final paragraph of the Wikipedia section linked by Mr. Godwin notes this:

On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews’ Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.

It seems unlikely that a Jewish family armed with one or even several of the most advanced personal-use firearms available at the time would be able to hold off a squad of SS nasties, but hey, Don’t Tread On Me, Freedom Isn’t Free, Take your stinking paws of me you damn dirty apes, WOLVERINES!, etc.

They’re banning LOADED weapons on site. Because, as we all know, the only folks who come to gun shows are VEEEERY responsible… You can buy all the guns you want, and we don’t really give a shit if you’re nuts, but you can’t carry a LOADED gun at the show.

Come to think of it, that’s a FABULOUS solution. We don’t need to ban guns, we just need to ban bullets. As long as you can figure out a way to fabricate your own bullets and casings you’re golden!

Hey, I KNOW the guy in that picture. It’s my old pal Bubba “One Ball” Watson!

Oh, thanks… Beer in the sinuses is just NOT really comfy, ya know.

Further on the issue of folks who should or maybe should not be around loaded firearms, this may be relevant.

There was, reportedly, an instruction manual for Husqvarna chainsaws that cautioned about keeping one’s genitals out of the way of the saw during operation (that was pretty much the way it was – again reportedly – phrased). Translated carefully from the original Swedish, by the sound of it.

I can only think that any male who packed a loaded firearm in the front of his pants would be someone with nothing to lose.

Hey! It appears that I’ve changed my mind, and I’m all for open carry now! As long as it’s done just like in the photo with the safety off. I say: go for it! Especially those who worship the “Nuge” as their Lowered & Master.

Works for me! Win-win!

His other suggestion, you recall, was to make a list of everyone with a mental illness. Which should be fun. I’m a paranoid schizophrenic, so, you know, I got all crazy paranoid over that for a few days. The other paranoid schizophrenics with whom I chat were kind of freaked too. One of them suggested, I don’t know how far tongue-in-cheek, that perhaps we should all get guns while the gettin’s good so that the NRA would then have our backs when someone tries to put us in a database. Personally, I’m hoping the person who said that was joking, because as we all (should) know, the mentally ill are more likely to kill themselves than anyone else. Which is fucking tragic, and somehow doesn’t actually attract much attention at all.

The gun-nutz still haven’t got the message- ‘More gunz- more killed’. it was always a rule at any gun show I went to that no weapons would be loaded- at all, under any circumstances.

Perhaps ALL the guns at a gun show should be loaded, that would be an easy way to sort the firearm-proficient from the poseurs.

Did anyone expect a relatively bolder outcome than this ? Please ,when do powerful self-interests ever lose to public interests ? Even tobacco still won when settlement monies were recycled into a patronage loop,i.e. ,mortgage fraud settlements .

At some point the root of dysfunction must redound to the people ,and their insane belief that this kleptocracy is going to look you for them ,give them what they are owed in social insurance ,be accountable to the public will and its welfare .The austerity hustlers scold you pursuant to stealing your monies because they view the populace as dumb fucking humps who must be treated as children ,and as these Wall St.sharpies manipulate the debt-reduction parameters to exclude expanding the tax base for reducing shortfalls ,they confirm that the proletariat ,both professional and working class, are not capable of intelligent resistance on any matter .

The president’s recent actions towards this issue is a cynical sop to progressives that will waste time and energy and result in nothing much of value [remember his commitments on Afghanistan and single payer]. It will result in a lot of talk, smoke, light and mirrors and press releases and at the end of the day a face saving compromise.

sop |säp| noun
1 a thing given or done as a concession of no great value to appease someone whose main concerns or demands are not being met: my agent telephones as a sop but never finds me work.

My god, but you’re boring. Are you aggrieved at just the President, or everything in your life?

No, strike that. I already know the answer.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if a person with a concealed weapon killed an NRA’r gone rabbid?

I imagine that most of the paranoid are already in the NRA; at least, that’s what the evidence suggests.

When the NRA begins a pomgrom, er, program, heh, to lobby for gun safes, gun locks and prosecution of anyone’s gun(s)/ammo that are used in any form of intended or completed violence, I’ll take them seriously.

The legislation I wanna see would prosecute the owners of guns who had them used by someone else, as fully as the shooter is prosecuted.

Prison, bitchez, n death penalty, if you gun owners don’t lock yer shit up so NO ONE, not your kids, not no robbers, not yer crazy Uncle Ted, not NO one, can get to them or the ammo.

Simple.

The rest is pure corporate fascist kabuki. Cuz gunz and killin makes a LOT of money for the rich. Not so much, for we the people.

End of story.

Loved the comment, thanks for truth and the laffs.

Interesting, wonder if that suckah in Tb’s picture up there filed down the firing pin.

Buy a pistol? Buy a fucking holster you morans!

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Good point, I’d struggle to find the safety and would be taken out in one shot by the proficient.

Guess I’ll stick to music jams and fests. Gun shows ain’t good for my health it would seem.

If I thot I could read half of what you wrote, I’d reply with more sense.

But man, that was pure unreadable, between wrong words in places and bad spelling.

Did you have a point you want to make? Maybe go over it and repost it. In Engrish. For those of us who care.

What’s yer gripe, dude has a good point or two.

You just mean or what?

Sorry Larue@29 .Rhetorically,I asked if anyone expected Biden to be taking a bolder stance .If so ,why ? The NRA is a powerful lobby ,and powerful lobbies always win over public interests .Then I further elaborated that other than the bribery and extortion of power politics ,the same interests of the lobbies manipulate public thought to contort it into a false dichotomy of controversy..I posited debt hysteria as an example,and how our masters have thwarted resistance by eliminating the austerity-averting solution of a job stimulus from the national dialogue .

Other than Bernie Sanders and Krugman, hardly anyone makes the anti-corporate case that creating jobs and eliminating deficits are two sides of the same coin .Now ,any questions ?

Let me emphasize ,I;m not arguing that any stimulus could give us long term economic viability .That is structurally impossible .It is also mathematically impossible to repay the debt according to austerity prescriptions ,even without future wars in a structurally sound economy that functioned for domestic producers as opposed to the international financiers .Even the validity of public debt is up for grabs .

However ,forgetting the theoretical ,we have objectivistic levels of mass suffering that will snowball geometrically with an austerity agenda ,and a well-conceived job stimulus will absolutely mitigate such devastation in the short term and give proof that this would be the correct course in a structurally reformed or revolutionized economy .If there is an argument for job deprivation , except on Wall St. ,I haven’t heard it .

This is satire, a Sarah Palin impression, right?

….right?

And from the other Portland on the East End of the continent:

Dean, as all of Maine knows by now, lit up the Portland Police Department’s switchboard Monday when he attached a new sling to his Daniel Defense assault rifle, slapped on a fully loaded, 30-round magazine and spent 3½ hours strutting his stuff from his apartment in the West End down to Back Cove and back.

Little wonder that 65 eyewitnesses, the searing memories of the massacre Dec. 14 in Newtown, Conn., fresh in their minds, frantically called police to report what most probably thought was a crime in progress.

There is balance in the “Force”.

Larue @ 30:

What’s yer gripe

I know, some folk get twitchy at the sight of an opposing thought.

It’s all Obama’s fault.

Are we hearing from the “Life is precious” Wing of the gop? Why isn’t baby jeebus crying about this?

The “Life is Precious” wing of the GOP means “life” is only “precious” for an unborn fetus. Once born, yer on yer own, and there’s abso-effen-lutely nothing, and I do mean NADA, more “precious” then being able to own & operate your own private arsenal of assault weapons.

While I honestly hesitate to even go here, one does wonder of the “Life is Precious” wing would have something *more* to say if a shooter ending up killing a bunch of pregnant women & their unborn kids. I certainly hope that never ever happens, but my bet is that, even then, the “Life is Precious” wing would be all up with the NRA and the apparently Diety-given 2d Amendment “rights,” which supercede *anyone’s* rights to, you know, life, liberty and persuit of happiness.

Will return to snark next time.

Being related to one of these nutjobs makes it very easy for me to say that onitgoes thought experiment would turn out exactly as he suspects. These people are absolutely crazed with fear, but there is a heirarchy to it it, and Mah gunz! is at the top. Trust me on this.

The gunpowder addict friend of mine rails about the ‘guvmint gonna take my gunz!!!’- and then puts U-Tube vids of him and his drum-magazined, wrath of gawd shotgun in action. Real subtle. He also believes that Alex Jones is a bonafide, credible intellect regarding all things ‘controversial’. I’ve also got a friend who thoroughly believes in ‘a gun in every hand, a bullet in every (choose your favorite denigrating epithet)!’ That’s what passes for lucid, mainstream logic, out here in the hinterlands. They are the NRA!

And the recent ranters are so…entertaining. Keep up the good work, chums!

Chutzpah.

“…dude has a good the same point or two.”

It never ends. “Obama’s always screwing the progressives.” Do you not get that politics is a process? Do you not get that nobody around here thinks Obama’s a progressive?

Sometimes (well, all the time) humor and snark are the only methods available to deal with the crushing disappointment of knowing we’ll never have the world we really want.

But really, must the stevelaudigs holler “dronez” all the time? That’s my gripe.

Shut down the schools, put the kids in gun/ammo factories and guard the factories with drones.

Taxes go down, kids learn valuable skills and DRONES!

Once born, yer on yer own

Is a Glock17 9mm baby shower present bad? It’s mainly plastic so, with any luck, the lil tyke won’t be eating lead.

Hey aidole@ ,32,if you were a little smarter you wouldn’t be so confused .If you read something that invoked Sarah Palin ,and you are not as mentally limited as your flabby ,inarticulate comment would indicate ,then quit acting like some passive/aggressive pansy ,and spit out something meaningful with which you disagree or found too deep for your comprehension .

Yeah ,…and then there was silence .

More details on the gun nuts’ latest big lie – about Hitler and gun control in Nazi Germany – can be found in this not-very-long article. [via Fez-dude]

Demonstration of what happens with loaded guns at a gun show.