Paranoia strikes derp.

Speaking as a parent (and now grandparent), I cannot think of any possible thing that could conceivably go wrong with combining screaming kids and a loaded AR-15. Especially if there is tequila involved as well.

Is the “peace of mind” from an AR-15 bigger or smaller than the “pieces of brain” that will get splattered around the room when the oldest is sneaking in from a late date and mistaken as an intruder?

~ Harry R. Sohl

Most oft-repeated phrase in America today: “Sorry kids, no more sleepovers at the Trotters’ house.”

She likes guns SO much that she approves of violence against women thus increasing the odds that she will get to feel the intoxicating, life-affirming power of using her surrogate assault-penis on a ruffian or scalawag or rapist. What a hero she would be then so just shut up!

Wow, these are exactly the same talking points as in the AR-15s-for-grrrlz infomercial –er, opinion piece — that appeared in National Review Online last week, which (sorry, I’m blogwhoring) was written by a couple of Koch-ite wingnut welfare recipients with really excellent blond hair.

That anyone take seriously a dumbass like this, is amazing.

Ain’t nobody talking about taking her fucking gun, but she’s got to share her “compelling” reasons to use a high-powered, high-capacity assault rifle for home security. Which, in itself, shows what a moron she is. A round from an AR-15 is gonna go through a lot of goddamn walls and doors before it stops. It’s a major threat to anything and anyone inside a or NEAR her house.

The best horseshit stories the NRA’s money can buy.

Oh, Gayle, can you please describe these groups of 3-4-5 violent men who would enter your house at once? Let me hazard a guess: would you say that they are the same color as our President, slightly darker than our President or very much darker than our President?

The Black Panthers, both of them, and perhaps they’ll even bring a couple of their black friends too.

Sure, she’s OK I guess, but where crazy gun wimmenz are concerned, I like to see some stylistic originality.

I’m talkin’ Jane-Bond-meets-Maxine-Headroom originality, like this! Now, her Congressional testimony would be must-see TeeVee!

There you go. Manning polling places is exactly the same as breaking and entering homes of white families with children (the more the better). Please keep up with your wingnut memes.

My Mom also raised six kids and neither she nor my Dad needed any kind of weapon in the house. Okay she did whack some of us with a broom if we were fighting too much and threatening to destroy the furniture.

This women is a sicko and frankly I feel bad for the kids.

Probably has a driver’s license too.

Does she homeabuse, oops, I mean homeschool too?

So she’s not just a terrible mother, she’s a horrible fucking human being.

*Ahem!* So, Mr. TBogg – why do you hate women so?

What city does Gayle Trotter live in? Because, if she commonly has five-against-one firefights in her living room then I don’t want to live next door.

And by the way, that bleeding heart (bleeding head?) Gabrielle Giffords has no say about guns because she doesn’t understand what could happen to Gayle if she didn’t have her AR-15.

A “Senior Fellow”. Hunh.

That testimony was definitely, most assuredly, not rehearsed or prepped by any third party.

Why do gun advocates rely on spokespersons who definitely, most assuredly, are out of their fucking minds? Where are those law-abiding, responsible gun owners who are supposedly all around us? Instead, we are served up images of young women blasting away while her children are screaming in the background. Is there focus group data somewhere that says that is an effective message?

People ARE talking about taking her gun.

I am.

Lots of people want these guns out of the hands of civilians; if they are illegal to sell and transport, they should also be illegal to own. We are the Gun-Grabbers — respect our views, please, by not dismissing her fears that we will take her gun.

Given the option, some of us would.

I saw several comments at one site that said pretty much exactly that, and they were serious.
Plus a whole lot from people who claimed they need gunz for self-defense and everyone should be carrying in case of, well, something. (I pointed out to one idjit that there was someone carrying when Giffords was shot, and he was lucky to not kill an innocent bystander.)

I think the answer to your question is somewhere in the arena of the definition of “out of their minds.” Leaving aside the old trope about repeating failure and insanity, “out of their minds” is about social definitions of sanity, or, being in one’s mind, the mind being some socially accepted norm of reality/reality acknowledgement.

If I’m on the right track, your question simply points up how many scary nutcases comprise the right wing.

The other day my 33-yr old son was a bit incredulous when I said the Republican party is, essentially, a racist party. He asked whether I really believed most Republicans are racist. I said yes, pointing out that that only means I think about 18%-plus of Americans are racist (given that voters and the populace at large track pretty closely in polling).

Same deal with Ms. Trotter. Probably a solid 20% of the country lives in the paranoid hell she does. So, NRA, et al. are only representing a powerful voting block.

Banality of evil. That is all.

I know this scenario is implausible to begin with, but I, for one, am skeptical that shooting at a gang of 5, 6 armed robbers is the best course of action.

Ah, that explains much. Like why would either Trotter herself or her (creepy, anti-women’s independence) group would, after years of posts, suddenly start talking about guns and gun laws.
Also, too, explains why she makes so little sense.

I just wonder how much the Kochs (or one of their surrogates) is paying her, and/or the IWF.

“Same deal with Ms. Trotter. Probably a solid 20% of the country lives in the paranoid hell she does. So, NRA, et al. are only representing a powerful voting block.

The longer I’m here in the great rural midwest, the more convinced I am that a very light scratch on most of the people here would reveal their racialist madness. It takes very, very little for them to go from smiling at the office clerk who is a medium brown colour, to a protracted rant against all the welfare recipients who are taking THEIR MONEY and the scary illegals and and and and and….. Fox News has done its job over the years but there was already a deep, rural paranoia which had been exploited by the Father Coughlin’s and the America Firsters and all the rest. It isn’t new. It hasn’t changed.

It’s why I make a real effort every morning to wish my colleagues Buenos Dias….

A-yup. Okay, then what exactly does “shall not be infringed” mean? If you are the NRA and you ‘allow’ background checks for your insane cousin/brother/father (it’s so hard to tell who is whom), and you ‘allow’ for background checks against ex-felons (that would be blacks and browns), then there you have the slippery slope to actual regulations. So restrict away, the NRA has no argument.

Just count how many times she blinks in that 2 minute piece.

She’s lying from the getgo all the way thru.

It’s why I make a real effort every morning to wish my colleagues Buenos Dias….

LOL. I see you are trying hard to fit in…
How do these nice midwesterners respond to your morning greeting?

5 or 6 is the armed thug minimum in Pima, AZ

… police admitted that while Guerena, a former Marine, was holding an AR-15 assault rifle, the safety was on and he had not fired it. They also admitted that SWAT officers fired 71 rounds at Guerena in seven seconds.

No mother of six children would have time to grab her assault rifle and take out the bad guys. She must think she is Wonder Woman.

I should have said “infringe away”.

One out of every five people [everywhere] is mentally disordered. 1 in every 2 is of below average intelligence. These are just as much facts as gravity and time.

I’m almost 60 years old. I never had even one “hardened, violent criminal” attack me at home. Not one time. Never even imagined five at once! Do these people know how crazy they sound to most Americans?

The Gun Lobby is indeed making the case for better mental health services, just not the way they might want to.

On the general topic of guns-guns-guns!, here is a video (2:12) from a 2007 debate among the Democratic candidates for President, where video questions were submitted by the public. This particular video question came from one of these gun loons (along with his “baby”).

The best part of this video comes at about 1:13, after Gov. Richardson is finished. Joe Biden knocked it out of the park (you can go directly to Biden’s response here, but you’ll miss Gun Nut’s inquiry at the beginning).

Like damned near everyone else of note who is in DC for any length of time, Biden fails the Snow White purity test, but I’m glad he is part of the effort to rein in the madness on this tragic and insane matter.

To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld: “you go gun shopping to defend against the threats your paranoid delusional wingnut brain perceives, not the threats you actually face.”

This will not end well.

Nope, it sure won’t.

Human beings “go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.”
- Charles Mackay, “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds”

There’s a ma’am with a gun over there
Telling me I got to be where?

I had this perverse image of a woman like Trotter mowing down hordes of home invaders while her infant child suckles on her breast.

Friendly Firearms – Gabrielle Giffords and the perils of guns: How an armed hero nearly shot the wrong man. (Not sure why the armed bystander who almost shot the wrong guy is called a “hero” in this title…)

Tacoma Mall Shooting Victim May Never Walk Again:

Brendan “Dan” McKown drew a pistol and confronted the gunman before being shot… hit twice in the abdomen… may have suffered permanent paralysis because of spinal damage.

There are far too many stories of civilians trying to arm themselves to protect themselves and their families only to accidentally shoot themselves, their family members and friends with their own guns. Seems to happen every day.

Pained and tense smiles…. And careful examination of my skin color.

What a horrible mother, not arming her precious little pumpkins.

Just count how many times she blinks in that 2 minute piece.

I was too busy watching her bobbing Adam’s apple…

Speaking of Giffords, her halting-voiced testimony on the Hill today was pretty effective from the coverage I saw (Al-Jazeera and France24). I would like to believe that the Gayle Trotters of the world will get drowned out given the current mood in the country.

I dread how a sibling squabble would end at her house. She probably keeps the piece for the county child welfare agents as much as for any brothers.

Sort of like the Dorthea Lange of the LaPierre set. It’s a heartwarming image of a sunken-cheeked mother of six, with an infant on her hip and an AR-15 in her free hand. The epitome of American motherhood, especially in this age of the Dictator Obama.

Something I find amusing about her argument is that it’s another example of how wingnuts can hold two contradictory ideas in their heads at one time. You hear them say all the time that an AR-15 is not an assault rifle, or that it’s no different than any other hunting rifle, or that it’s “a squirrel gun in a Halloween costume” (seriously, I saw that one on Facebook verbatim). Yet this woman needs an AR-15 because the increased firepower will allow her to hold off five intruders at once.

Listen, children of the corn. I know you all are crazy, but can’t you at least get your stories straight?

Michele “The Hate Queen” Malkin is attacking Gabby Giffords for not writing her own notes before she spoke. MM really is a vile, vile, vile person.

Most of these racist idiots didn’t give a shit about owning assault weapons, like the AR-15, until rather recently. It’s all about the NRA being the mouth piece of BigGuns ‘n BigAmmo pushing these assault weapons onto the rubes at the REALLY BIG GUNS BLOW UP LOTSA SHIT shows.

I have rightwing friends who’ve never owned a gun until recently. Now “all of a sudden” they really really “need” a gun for “protection.”

The fact that none of ‘em have had any issues – like being robbed or whatever – appears to be utterly irrelevant. For some reason, even though crime stats are going down in most places, NOW *everyone* is supposed to not only pack heat everywhere you go, but it’s NOW gotta be an assault weapon.

Has anyone else noticed this trend? Has anyone else noticed their (usually) conservative friends/acquaintances/relatives suddenly NOW all “needing” assualt weapons???

It’s not accidental. Follow the MONEY.

In this case (bear with me now): I blame Obama. Well, indirectly. Obama’s been the GIFT that keeps on giving to BigGun ‘n BigAmmo, and the NRA has milked that and milked that and milked that.

This women is a lying shill. Got paid big buck$ to whore herself for the money. Should be ashamed, but no doubt will proudly prance herself down her MegaChurch aisle this Sunday all pious-like.

PTOUI!! Propogandized idiots.

You know, I don’t know Michele, but I feel as if I’ve hated her my whole life.

There is only one 1-l (one el) and that’s Michele Bachmann, the queen of crazy. It’s a nit, but the princess of crazy, Michelle Malkin is a 2-l. (Two el). Carry on.

WTFF?

I heard this steaming pile of bullshit excerpted on NPR today, and I was thinking, “is there some massive crime wave going on where both the Sharks AND the Jets are on a rampage and busting in Hey Koolaid-style en masse on suburban moms all over the country, and I just haven’t HEARD about it?”

Why the fuck doesn’t anyone ever ask these moronic loons to cite a few cases where the thing they irrationally fear has actually happened? Because here’s some things that HAVE actually happened: crazy people with the type of gun she says must be legally available to all citizens to satisfy her irrational paranoias are killing people in schools, movie theaters, homes, and random public places. We would have no problem compiling a list of a dozen or more examples of this in just the past 2 years. Meanwhile, where the fuck are the stats on the numbers of suburban women who have had an entire pack of thugs break into the house to attack them? I have a feeling that the only place they can be found is in the diseased mind of Gayle Trotter.

I love her! She is speaking for all women. She said so. How many times are those defenseless women attacked by three, four or five violent criminals? How many? Inquiring minds need to know. Bet they sneak in at night so you gotta have an accurate and fast firing semi auto.

Ps a gun mfg I audited once told me they had this neat little sawed off shotgun that could hit anything in that direction and if you missed the guy would just shit his pants from the noise and flash. Just made for the little lady you know.

I see it on Criminal Minds all the time, but I havn’t tabulated it yet.

x2

I heard it on NPR this afternoon, too. Why these people aren’t ashamed of themselves for acting like idiots in public I really don’t know. The bigger question is why reasonable people act like these lunatics are making valid arguments.

I just fixed the lock on my side door from the laundry room to outside. Never has there been a better time for the hordes to enter and assemble in my familyroom/laundryroom/throat-slashing-room. Nobody did it, damn it.

I suppose MM never looked up the word “amanuensis,” either.

She’s ugly on the outside, too.

I wish I could have testified after her about how I needed a shoulder-fired missile laucher to protect myself from the intergalactic Thetans. And a nuclear submarine for the sharks with fricken’ lasers on their heads.

We need to start a concerted effort to get our own trolls on the witness lists for these congressional hearings. For fuck’s sake, if we have to endure trolling, we should be fighting fire with fire.

had to turn off the sound to count and even then it was difficult. I saw 137 blinks in 90 seconds.

Holy curdled cow !!! (see previous post) How are we to stop the Thetans? I’m sorry, what’s a Thetan? Am I supposed to cream to Tom Cruise now? Somebody please guide me in the size, shape and choices I need for my home front arsonal. I’m counting on the Tbogg commuity to keep me safe. Again, what am I fighting?

Oh fer fuck’s sake. “A young women, defending her babies in her home….” with her handy-dandy AK-15 – she’s talking like that’s an everyday occurrence!

“Three, four, five, violent attackers in her home -” Is this her freaking sex fantasy?

“gives her more courage when she’s fighting violent, hardened criminals…” I would imagine that anyone who’s had enough experience fighting violent, hardened criminals to judge the various effects certain conditions and choices of weapons may have on her state of mind during those experiences is probably someone who needs to re-assess the choices she makes in life.

SEriously, does anyone have statistics on home invasion crimes? How likely is this freaking scenario?

I would no more have an AK-15 in my home with my baby than I would a blowtorch/chainsaw/arc welder/pyrotechnics combo.

Yes, but the Black Panthers are only just “standing their ground,” aren’t they? Oh, wait…

I’m almost 60 years old. I never had even one “hardened, violent criminal” attack me at home. Not one time.

Exactly, me too. I’ve lived in some pretty sketchy neighborhoods, too. The biggest problem is the paranoia the NRA is whipping up in order to sell the products that enrich the people they represent, i.e, the gun manufacturers. So some old guy murders a high school kid who happens to pull into his driveway by mistake.

Convincing people that hordes of home invaders are stalking you every minute has ruined the lives of two families – the young man who was killed, and the family of the Fox-News-addled oldster who freaked out and killed an innocent guy.

And you know what makes me even more depressed? I was reading the comments section on some story about this horrible incident, and some fucking heartless bastard/idiot actually posted a comment that said the victim had deserved it because he was guilty of the crime of trespassing.

Wow. Y’all aren’t kidding about the blinking! I finally watched the clip (sound off). Not sure I’ve ever seen that much blinking.
Either she really needs a new pair of contact lenses, or….

Lawrence O’Donnell just ripped her to shreds tonight on his show.

She was on the verge of tears.

Sadly, no. The phrase is, “You behave or I swear to God I’ll send you to the Trotters’ for a sleepover.” And the speaker leans forward and makes Dr. Evil scare-quotes while saying “sleep-over.”

Unfortunately, the bored housewives who’ve managed to save enough from their butter and egg money to buy assault rifles and RPG launchers are the only ones who can afford to take time out from their busy days of domestic toil and bench-loading ammo to testify at Congressional hearings.

…DRUGS!!!

Lawrence O’Donnell eviscerated her last night. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

We’ve met the mother of a future Ryan Lanza.

35 years ago, an armed robbery happened my family. My brother and uncle testified at the trial of the robbers despite hits being taken out on their lives. They ‘disappeared’ before testifying for several months after living under armed guard.

I live on that property now and have an alarm system, 3 horses, 250 chickens, my great-grandfather’s gorgeous barn, and one old pistol for just-in-case to protect the animals, all of them that always live on large property.

She’s nuts.

We need to start a concerted effort to get our own trolls on the witness lists for these congressional hearings.

I’m in. Stirring up trouble by loudly siding with human stupidity is my favorite hobby. That I’m really obvious about it is a plus in this case. I also have lots of really, really ugly ties to wear to formal occasions of this kind.

I’m in. I will swear that I need a machine gun on my roof. I want one given the history here, but Mr. Annie says we’re OK (I think he’s not just happy to see me, if you know what I mean.)

We’ve met the mother of a future Ryan Lanza.

Nah. She believes that shit precisely to the extent that she’s getting paid to believe it, and spout it in coordination with the other Koch-funded bullshit that was neatly planted in National Review. If anything, that makes it worse than the gun fetishists who believe it without being paid.

Something like that scenerio would never happen!

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JennOfArk-
How about we recruit The Yes Men for testimony trolling?

Fondly brings to mind
America’s Worst Mother
Oh, where is she now?

As one of six kids raised by a bi-polar (untreated) single mother, I am all too familiar with what kids do when one of them is deemed “too bossy” by the others.

Back in the ’50s, we just punched and wrestled and, once, my hot-headed ten-year-old brother tapped me with a kitchen knife on the outer wrist for telling him I was in charge. It drew a few drops of blood. I shrieked and threatened to tell Mom he stabbed me.

Of course I didn’t (Mom was too unstable), but just think of what would have happened if said brother had a “scary-looking-gun” available to threaten his sister. Mom would have come home from work to find all the kids but one dead, and the house in a mess.

This idiot, despite having six children, apparently has no idea what children do. I’m very sorry that she has no concept of how to protect her own kids, much less any neighbor kids who are unlucky enough to venture in.

You know, I just remembered the one case i know of where someone stopped a bad guy by shooting them.

A woman (a cousin by marriage) picked up a hitchhiker, back in the mid-50s, and he pulled a knife and forced her to get in the trunk. There was a .22 pistol and ammunition in the trunk, and she managed to load the thing. When he stopped the car and opened the trunk, she shot him.

A .22, not an assault weapon. (It even got a paragraph in ‘Time’.)

Now that I think about it, I know of a case too. True story:

Some friends of mine loved to tell the story of “Uncle Frank,” their grandmother’s brother, who they never met. This all took place in Izard County, Arkansas back in the late 1940′s or early 1950′s. Izard County is still pretty isolated these days, so I would guess back then it was moreso by a factor of 10 or more, with probably no paved roads or just a few in the whole county, which is basically all mountains.

Anyway, it seems that Uncle Frank was quite a drunk, and a mean one too, and everyone knew it. Frank would get drunk and go home and beat his wife, which everyone also knew. Sometimes he’d go on a bender and disappear for a week or so. When that happened, his wife would go to her father’s house to stay until he came back.

So no one thought much of it when Frank’s wife showed up at her dad’s saying Frank was off carousing again. But when Frank didn’t come back after a couple of weeks, his sister (my friends’ grandmother) got worried and went to the sheriff and raised a stink. So the sheriff goes out to Frank’s place, and no one’s there, so he looks around in the ravine behind the house, and he finds Frank’s body, which has been dug up and half-eaten by wild hogs (at this point in the story, my friends would always cackle madly). Frank had been shot and buried in a shallow grave – before the pigs got to him.

It turned out that Frank had gone home drunk again one night and beat the shit out of his wife, then held a gun to her head and told her if she fell asleep he was going to blow her head off. Of course, Frank was really drunk, so it was he who fell asleep first – never to awake. His wife used his gun to defend herself from his future attacks, thus stopping the bad guy.

Frank’s wife went to trial and was given a sentence of one year, because as noted everyone knew Frank was a mean drunk who beat his wife and pretty much the entire jury pool probably knew him personally since there were only a couple of hundred people in the county. And “dug up and half-eaten by wild hogs” has been a shorthand for several things for me ever since I first heard the story.

“dug up and half-eaten by wild hogs”

Sounds like a future Tbogg tag.

Great story, btw. I’d like to hear it at a Congressional gun control hearing. ;-)

I’m with puravida, that is a good story. I’ll wager there are many more such accounts out there, most of which the NRA would not choose to highlight (go figure!).

Of my kinfolk, those who live in Dysfunction Junction are notorious for reasons that don’t involve gun-play. The one exception – that I know of – is a cousin whose story is quite similar to yours, except that it played out in a more urban setting. [She did her prison term, and last I heard was doing her best to live her life in a functioning manner. And I certainly hope she perseveres; she was a sweet girl when we were both little kids.]