Yes, but when did Hillary know about it? And who wrote the talking points? At what point in the chain of discussion did the information change to select restaurants?

Cool Ranch Doritos Locos Tacos

Cheesy motherfuckers choose shit.

Thanks for this post. I generally avoid the Twitter, but I’ll make an exception for The LEFT.

President Dr Jill Stein is totally not down with Cool Ranch Dronez Doritos Locos Tacos…

As for the militarized SWAT kill-a-palooza, I will enable my Dr President Jill Stein Sparkle-Dome-o-Purity-n-Safety-n-Shit.

The rest of you fuckers are on your own….

If they thought they could actually stop you with a swat team, they wouldn’t have used the helicopter with missiles.

After reading about the Cool Ranch Doritos Locos Tacos debacle and then this business about a woman carrying a loaded gun in her vagina, my day is now complete.

Yes, you just read that correctly. This is one of those deals that’s like looking at a car wreck, you don’t want to look but you just can’t help yourself.

The trauma inflicted by reading about that particular concealed carry episode is so deep that I may never sleep again. I’ve always known those things could be dangerous, but this carries things to a whole new level. And if I’m traumatized, imagine the feelings of that poor cop who had to perform the, ah, extraction…

I used to like to come to a blog with a similar name, but it was done by a guy who took a stand against Bush and the bogus wars and lies he promoted, back when everyone was running around peeing their pants about terrorists. It was refreshing. Some smartass right-winger apparently took over his blog when it sold out to FireDogLake. Sad…

Ha!
I didn’t think it was possible..you just did the literary equivalent of rolling your eyes and making a jerk-off motion while asserting that the subject of “drones” was beyond passe, and equating anyone who might be concerned with drones to stoned hippies and supporters of Rand Paul. Well done sir.
This blog is less about the snark and more the beautiful blossoming of a bitter ex liberal-never-was-progressive-sensible-democrat-leaning-republican.
I can’t quit you dude. Good Luck.

Or possibly acknowledging the rise, once again, of those idealistic young Paultards who were able to set aside Ron Paul’s history of racism and Fed conspiracy theories because he was anti-war and pro-decriminalization of marijuana.

And I’m not saying drones are passé . Only that I know how the argument is going to go for the next few days, and I have no interest in arguing (again) with people who, in the end, are just going to call me history’s greatest monster because I am not as fanatically obsessed with drones ( or Bradley Manning for that matter) as Glenn Greenwald or Kevin Gosztola to the exclusion of actual everyday issues that affect people who don’t have the leisure time to sit around and have wonky debates at high decibel levels.

Put simply: if you think Osama bin Laden was “assassinated”, as has been asserted, then I’m no more interested in your opinion than if you want to talk about the fake moon landing.

And, as I have said before: I’m not a progressive. I work for a living and I live on planet Earth.

See Roy for all the nuance.

This mythical Rand Paul supporting sleeper cell Democrat, at once laughably powerless yet threatening to the fabric of democracy with their pernicious lies, intrigues me.
as in

Normally he was wont to be about twelve feet from nose to tail, but when Dinsdale was very depressed Norman could be anything up to eight hundred yards long.

Please, do go on..

I’m an old working dude like you. Straight blue collar carpenter, and I find the time.

WTF does Bin Laden have to do with baseless vitriolic posts against straw men liberals who are too human rights uppity for your tastes?
He was pretty much assassinated by any definition of the word I know, but I hadn’t thought about it before, and I don’t care about the words used to describe his killing. We made him, he had a beef with us, he died for his beliefs. I don’t condone his views or actions. Might have been useful to put him on trial, after Cheney. But that’s neither here or there.

Drones are just a visible tip of the wedge that is historically important to discuss now. It shouldn’t bother you as much as it seems to.
I really can’t see discussion of the regression of civil liberties in the last decade being viewed in the future(if we survive) as a misguided or frivolous pursuit.

Rand Paul and his pals are more than happy to tolerate (encourage?) the occasional extrajudicial killing of uppity blah, brown and dirty hippie Americans, so their sanctimony is bullshit and unworthy of serious debate on the topic. And you can be damn sure that if Darth Cheney were running the drone program these jackasses would be utterly silent.

It becomes frivolous when it reaches black helicopter paranoia levels. Ted Cruz wants to know if it is Constitutionally permissible to kill an American on US soil with a drone. Is it okay if a SWAT sniper shoots a kidnapper who is threatening his victim? If yes, then how about with a drone if that were possible? But when Eric Holder tried to explain that Cruz’s question left out any nuance or circumstances, he was browbeaten for not giving it a blanket thumbs down. That is the stupid discussion we are having now in America.

It’s the whole scary “flying killer robot” thing that is making everyone stupid. As for the Bin Laden thing, many of these same people have called his killing an “extrajudicial murder” which is where they lose me because they seem to have no regard for the safety of the people who actually have to do the dirty work of getting in there and getting out. They shouldn’t be pawns in someone’s late night dorm room discussion about ” how the world should be”.

Does the surveillance aspect of drones bother me? Not anymore than stop light cameras that catch some people running red lights and discourage others from doing so. Or CCTV that helps to prevent crime or even exposes the police when they act like criminals. It’s a tool and sometimes it gets misused, but on the whole it serves its purpose and we never think to complain about it then.

There you go. That’s my drone speech in miniature. Happy now?

Drones Hot Air Balloons Airplanes Battleships are just a visible tip of the wedge that is historically important to discuss now.

The problem isn’t drones, it’s humanities’ fascination with blowing each other up.

Fucking Obama!

an elitist Taco Bell on the Upper East Side

Fucking banksters gotta be first in line and Hoover up everything last fucking thing, don’t they?

Taco Bell fans erupted on social media Wednesday when they couldn’t find the much-anticipated new Cool Ranch Doritos Locos Tacos.

Okay but they did have their new Carne de Caballo Taco when I stopped by …

Ted Cruz wants to know if it is Constitutionally permissible to kill an American on US soil with a drone.

What does Ted Cruz (R-TX) think Abraham Lincoln (R-Reality) would have done if he had drones? Not used them?

“I work for a living and I live on planet Earth.”

Well hooooee cowboy, don’t that beat all – so everyone who thinks America’s criminal military actions and obscene drone warfare program deserve to be spoken against are unwashed hippies from Mars. How fucking original – except it’s straight out of Dick Nixon’s playbook.

“Does the surveillance aspect of drones bother me? Not anymore than stop light cameras that catch some people running red lights and discourage others from doing so.”

“Bwahahahah – nothing perturbs TBogg the Indifferent! You monitor my media output, emails, phone calls and take secret pictures of my wife and daughter’s ass? I laugh at your invasion of what little privacy I have left!”

And anyone who brings the subject up? Well –“stupid, frivolous, paranoia, everyone stupid, no regard for the safety of the people who actually have to do the dirty work, pawns, idealistic, fanatically obsessed, wonky” aaaand “I’m no more interested in your opinion than if you want to talk about the fake moon landing.”

Hey pal, it wasn’t hard to gather from your “Your Mumia sweatshirt won’t get you into heaven anymore” piece that the valid concerns of millions of people regarding the mind-boggling policy reversals by this president, which are seen by many as more sinister than criminal actions the mindless puppet that preceded him, bother you not one iota.

Thousands of children and civilians being targeted and killed? Pfff! Millions of people living in fear of the most bloated, immoral, gung-ho, unregulated military machine in the history of the world? Pshaw! Illegal covert surveillance of anyone deemed appropriate your military, police or covert agencies? Ttthhhllp! Secret drones patrolling the sky of your home, operated by who knows who, armed with who knows what? Snarf!

Sir, I don’t care that you don’t care. Forty years ago I watched your particular demographic lounge back and sneer when the dirty hippies stood up to and got smashed by the militaristic junta that rules your country, even though the hippies were completely morally right, and the indescribably filthy war they protested which was being waged at that time by that junta was completely, in every way, wrong.

But don’t sneer at those who try, in their own insignificant way, to protest your country’s world-wide inhumane violence, rapidly expanding surveillance program and utter disregard for the well-being of the world’s peoples, their environment and their right to exist peacefully, in freedom.

It ain’t smart, it ain’t pretty and the cleverest snark on the web can’t make it so.

Abe might have dithered a bit, but it’s for damn sure that Grant and Sherman wouldn’t have.

I don’t think Cruz or little Rand would have a single problem with drones if the right sort of people were wielding them, rather than Obama and his secret Muslin socialista friends. Like Grayson said, if Obama spoke positively about his BLT for lunch, the ‘tards would be trying to ban bacon. This whole fashion show is just the latest in reflexively opposing anything Obama is doing.

Neigh, neigh, say it ain’t so Burnsie.

There are closed circuit cameras at the convenience store on the corner. IT’S OBAMA’S FAULT!!!!!1!!!!!!11!!!

Please stop with the bickering and such. You all are giving me flashbacks to my childhood. The P and M would get into it at the dinner table; usually with Wellie saying something like, “Dude, you can’t trust them drones! Why they may just come down, take a seat at the table and eat your dinner!” Which wasn’t really a big threat as dinner was usually liver or some other fried organ. Then Bettie would yell, “Wellie, you’re scaring Little Dude! He’s hardly touched his mashed turnips!” At that point I knew Bettie wouldn’t remember to make me some pudding.

So can we just skip to the pudding? Or at least change the subject back to M Malkin and her God-given over supply of spin-2 bosons and gravitons?

Taco Bell is a “restaurant” now? Does that mean the hot dog stand at 5th Avenue and 45th Street is mobile bistro?

Needs moar Fight the Power.

But thanks for the ” over the top ” demonstration. Much appreciated.

The primary change in national security in the 21st century is that state vs. state violence has declined. Meanwhile intrastate and non-state violence has increased. Most intrastate violence is not really our concern until Anderson Cooper puts on his safari vest and gets a satellite linkup.

But non-state actors are our concern. And using traditional military means to deal with non-state actors doesn’t make sense. Invading and punishing the state of Iraq for the actions of non-state Al Qaeda doesn’t make sense (on a host of levels).

Drones are a problematic solution to a more problematic problem. Yes, yes, by all means, we need more oversight. We need some sort of adversarial judicial procedure to try people like Al Awlaki in absentia.

But waging war with a drone or the 10th Mountain Division is an arbitrary distinction. Which tool works better? In this case, drones.

Oh yes, I remember you, foaming at the mouth and all. And, I recall, spending an inordinate amount of time telling me what a horrible monster I was, to which I responded at some length. I thought it was a pretty good post, since it did provoke a lot of commentary, although I could have done without the name calling and abuse. I must ask – why are you here, since you evidently don’t like or agree with the host (which is fine) and act like a complete abusive asshole (not so much)? At the time you were stamping your feet and just didn’t like anything at all.

Allow me to repost something I said to someone a little while back…

Well, I certainly hope you don’t personally hate me, since I don’t think those things at all, at all, although I really do get tired of this particular discussion. I think Obama is a politician who trims his sails all too close to the wind, and is as much a captive of corporate interests as any Republican. His record is horrible – there’s no other word – in many areas where, based upon his words prior to 2008, I (and you and many others) expected better of him. And, for that matter, were entitled to expect better. Including but not limited to the following, to wit:

- Civil liberties – 4th, 5th and 8th Amendments might as well be dead letters at this point, and Obama and the Department of Justice seem to be just fine with that. We now live in a judicially-approved surveillance society of which the East German Stasi or for that matter Joseph Stalin could only dream. (Edit: if someone wrote Thomas Paine’s work these days as an original, they could likely look forward to spending a little quality time with humorless people in dark suits from one or more federal agencies – at the very least. Plus having all their communications monitored. Oh wait…)
- Claims of executive privilege – yes, he is in fact as bad or worse than W in this area. Condemning anybody, American or not, to death or indefinite imprisonment on the President’s say-so and nothing else? That is, according to everything I’ve ever read or been taught, totalitarian government, nothing more or less.
- Foreign policy – Obama doesn’t display the yee-haw triumphalism, ignorance and out and out contempt for foreign and domestic public opinion so obvious in that guy unknown to Republicans who was president for eight years, but his foreign policy is (more or less) that guy’s on steroids. Not that horrible stupidities, misdeeds and cruelties are anything new in American foreign policy by any means…He’s not quite as eager to bomb brown people and doesn’t have his lips as firmly affixed to Bibi Netanyahu’s ass, but how much of a stretch is that? See executive privilege, above, as well.
- Defense spending – Christ Jesus, we can maintain twelve carrier battle groups and we absolutely must spend hundreds of billions on the F-35 “air superiority” fighter on top of the flawed and almost as expensive F-22, but old, poor and/or sick people “must make sacrifices”. Because freedom.
- Rule of law – is now officially a myth in this country, and ‘equal justice under the law’ is a joke. Get caught smoking a joint, go to jail and have a permanent mark on your record. Get caught laundering money for drug cartels and terrorists, get fined the equivalent of five weeks profits.
- Prosecution of people who got rich by knowingly pushing shitty mortgages and associated financial products? Honkies, please. Everything’s fucked up, and nobody goes to jail.

That last item – more or less complete and public collapse of the rule of law for the very rich and very well connected – may be the most dangerous and corrosive of the lot, in my not very humble opinion. And the one to which Obama, of all politicians, should have been most sensitive.

All that being said – Obama is still a better alternative than Mitt Romney, particularly Mitt Romney in company with a Republican House of Representatives and a nonfunctioning Senate. Granted, that doesn’t require a lot of heavy lifting – but if I allowed myself to dwell on how far every single American president in my adult lifetime (all eight of the sonsofbitches) has fallen short of my ideals (edit: and the ideals upon which this country was supposedly founded), there wouldn’t be enough drugs in the western hemisphere to raise my spirits above the level of a small pile of horseshit. I’ll take whatever I can view as small victories when they come my way, in lieu of the second coming of Bobby Kennedy or something – which, no, Barack Obama most certainly is not.

If people like snark with with their political commentary (agree with it or not as you will) and hence are less enlightened than you prefer, you’ll just have to bear up under that burden. Nobody on this blog or any other is here to meet up to your standards or opinions, most particularly in this case our esteemed host; not that he needs or wants any endorsement or defense from me (or anyone else). If you don’t like what you read here, don’t come here – which I could have sworn was going to be the case after your last outburst. You aren’t going to convert anybody to your point of view by being an asshole – because you don’t come across as a serious human being, you come across as a whiny abusive little fuck. I’ve read spittle-flecked encomiums on RedState and Free Republic that were more coherent than you. If you’re just coming here to show your ass, I fail to understand why you haven’t been blocked.

As a matter of fact – given your rantings I’m starting to seriously wonder about your bona fides, because you are really starting to sound like a provocateur instead of just an obnoxious troll.

Back in the Hippie bashing days, I’m sure your heartfelt, letter of outrage to your local newspaper set everything right.

Just like your post on this blog has that war criminal Obama hiding under the bed, in fear of your wrath.

the much-anticipated new Cool Ranch Doritos Locos Tacos.

Needz Moar Horsemeat.

For the 100th time, none of you hankie-twisting dipshits has raised a finger at the violence done by uniformed agents of federal, state and local governments on a daily basis against American citizens.

Cops shoot and kill citizens on a daily basis, all without the benefit of due process or even an arrest.

And this …

But don’t sneer at those who try, in their own insignificant way, to protest your country’s world-wide inhumane violence, rapidly expanding surveillance program and utter disregard for the well-being of the world’s peoples, their environment and their right to exist peacefully, in freedom.

umm… you don’t know us very well, do you? This nation has been killing people across the globe pretty fucking regularly since 1945, it’s what we do best.

I’m in the middle of “Collapse” and am really convinced that we humans are just a bunch of blood-thirsty little fuckers hellbent on exterminating each other in the most imaginative and blood-curdling methods available.

The Maya bound their captives hand and foot into a human ball and then rolled them down their massive pyramids. So now, instead of rope, the killing tools fly and are made of fiberglass. Where’s the fucking difference?

So, to all you tweakers crying about how terrible drones are, please explain how indignant comments on a snark blog will really change thousands of years of carnage and destruction.

As long as Rand Paul and his minions want to steal food off my table just so billionaires can (begrudgingly) pay even less in taxes than they do now, I don’t fucking care that they’ve suddenly discovered that a Kenyan Muslim Usurper Dictator can now theoretically kill them with flying robots.

Especially since the Paulites don’t seem to give two shits about extrajudicial killings and government coverups when it’s a black kid walking home from a convenience store.

They can all eat a bag of salted dicks. And I’ll make them PAY for it too, since Dog knows they don’t want to be considered moochers.

The Maya bound their captives hand and foot into a human ball and then rolled them down their massive pyramids.

Really? Holy shit! And I thought it was the Aztecs that were the really mean muthafuckas.

I don’t understand all the hysteria over drones. We have so many, many ways to kill people but nobody’s screaming about black helicopters (well unless it’s the U.N.’s black helicopters) or tanks or automatic weapons or bombers being used here.

And drones potentially have some very good uses – especially here in the high mountain west. Search and rescue missions in the mountains for one. Detection of wild fires (which have pretty much devastated us the last few years) and possibly even being able to dump water on the fires to minimize the risk to the people flying the planes now. But professional shouters will shout and will constantly need new shiny objects to shout about.

Isn’t that a fun book? I did the audible version so missed out on charts, pics and graphics.

For whatever reason, the last section left me humming The Doors’ “The End”…

I love it.

don’t come here – by being an asshole – you don’t come across as a serious human being, you come across as a whiny abusive little fuck. I’ve read spittle-flecked encomiums on RedState and Free Republic that were more coherent than you. If you’re just coming here to show your ass, I fail to understand why you haven’t been blocked.

Huh, this is so similar to the response I got when I went to the Antidiotarian Rottweiler at the start of the Iraq conflagration. You only left out ‘stupid fucking lefty’ and ‘bend over so Saddam’s guard can fuck you”.

Lucky then that I was in the Navy probably before you were born, and I was ‘trained’ by meaner, tougher, more foul-mouthed men than you can ever be. And I’ve served with American troops. And I saw them weep like children and cry out in fear like all men do when the futility and savageness and the utter brutality of war is finally served up to them on a plate.

Don’t lecture me om where to go, what to say, or how to conduct myself. I speak from experience and in good faith.

And Needs moar Fight the Power.? Pr-etty lame.

I work for a living and I live on planet Earth.

You can do both and not be a boot-licking hypocrite.

Try it some day.
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Can you post the link to your blog please?

Wait.
Wait wait wait.
Wait.

The same people who were perfectly willing to throw the election and the entire nation to the warmongers of the GOP a few months ago because Obama “betrayed” them and hurted they fee-fees are now “concerned”-in-quotation-marks that, gasp, the military is killing people?

Christ WEPT, what a bunch of imbeciles. But at least their consciences are clean! That’s all that really matters.